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    Written by Zeromage 81 Comments
    Last Updated:: September 3, 2009

    Overrated Songwriters are a dime a dozen. Usually these songwriters are in a band that’s considered good (which means publicly covered in any way shape or form). These bands usually suck too because of the poor songwriter. Regardless, along with the band appearing as quality comes the harangues on why the songwriter is brilliant. The reasons for songwriting greatness is scarce when defined by any who goes off on these tangents. Relying on expressible gestures, these “music enthusiastic” appear more as monkeys than a more appropriate stoic gesture that conveys a tacit understanding of quality. These next songwriters are marks of men (and one female) who often arouse these identity masturbations. These songwriters are all generally considered as great songwriters, but a closer look at these songwriters will hopefully relegate the “music enthusiasts” gestures to the scrap heap.

    10.Robert Smith

    24_robertsmith_lglWhy does The Cure get listened to so much? There are no good songs in the catalogue. There are no choruses. There are basic attempts at sounding pop sometimes, probably one chorus in their biggest single to date, so why the fuck is this fat vampire considered a good songwriter? Is it because the makeup he wears? Is it because he’s fat? Is it because he sings in a voice that’s overly-emphatic, probably due to the fact that he couldn’t get girls because of his appearance. Shit, there was always a weight room in the high school. There was always at least a treadmill. Just think, one treadmill and no one would have been duped into thinking that Roberts Smith’s foray into pseudo-romantic tragedy would have had it’s legacy.

    9. Sheryl Crow

    sheryl_crowTHE female American songwriter. She once appeared as credible to people who thought they knew what credible was and then she released that “Soak up the Sun” song and somehow this took away her credibility because a chorus came too quick and the melody was too breezy, but before this, she was the Aphrodite of modern songwriting. She couldn’t write a bad song. Her unabashed self-expression had to be heard as good, especially by those who needed some auxiliary human being to affirm their own self identity. Shit, when I listen to her self-titled album though, all I hear is woman-power rock on par with Meredith Brooks at the time. Is something this culturally relative good? If it’s good at the time, is it good later? Can people still listen to “A Change will do you good” without cringing? Can they do the same with “Redemption Day”? Only a dogmatic acolyte won’t admit this.

    8. Bob Dylan

    bob-dylanHow many times do we have to hear that Dylan is be all and end all of music? What is with all this idolization? And how come every time these Dylan idolizers are called out on why they like Dylan they give the same banal reasons for idolization like “He was one of the great American Poets”. How come when you ask one of these buffoons on the spot which Dylan album inspired them the most, they can’t respond? They can’t even name one Dylan album let alone a favorite album! They know a few select songs and relegate the rest of their opinion to popular mainstream media’s coverage on tradition, whatever that is supposed to mean. Pedestrians, pure and simple…easily satisfied. The human being at its worst.

    7. Pete Doherty

    pete-doherty-11The best word to describe Pete Doherty’s songwriting with the Libertines and Babyshambles is boring. Listen to his live solo output and it’s even more boring. It’s a man with an acoustic guitar talking about the basic day of an English life without noticing the subtleties of a conversation that would often appear interesting as is the case with Lee Mavers. Instead we get cockney bullshit about storefronts and hooligans, and everything that sounds cool to the NME. Pete Doherty is the print machine for the NME; someone operating on a visceral level on what English coolness is. See, this is the problem by being influenced by any music. There’s an unlucky chance you might be influenced by The Clash.

    6.Paul Westerberg

    paul-westerbergThis dick has the gumption to call out Ryan Adams as being shit. Paul Westerberg in his lifetime won’t write a song half as decent as Ryan Adams worst song, but because Paul Westerberg appeared “hardass” in The Replacements (with their overly mundane punk-turned rock n’ roll exigencies) and his subsequent solo career, he could get away with criticizing a good songwriter. What is one good song that this Paul Westerberg wrote? “Satisfied?” This shit should be relegated to the highschool gym concert series, not a professional band. You won’t find anything better on his Stereo album no matter how much he distanced himself from big name producers to produce a more raw “songwriter in a basement” sounding production. Bad production on top of bad songwriting. This was Paul Westerberg’s next step after his major label stints. It only made sense with the coming of the indie crowd.

    5. Frank Black

    black_lFrank Black’s macabre style of songwriting would have it’s crowd. Basically, those who liked The Pixies. From all his albums there’s about two choruses worth listening to, but you would still have to endure his painfully overbearing vocals throughout the song. Did anyone ever tell this virulent piece of crap to shut the hell up? Speak softly and carry a big stick (not in Simon and Garfunkel’s way though; which was speak softly and carry no sticks). This didn’t happen because the pretend that people played in liking The Pixies or maybe it was simply a dialectical reaction to the harmonious sounding music of the 80’s. A good reason to never be interested in the sake of liking something for the sake of reaction alone: one day realizing that the man you thought was an amazing songwriter was really complete shit.

    4. Eric Clapton

    eric-clapton-1Eric Clapton made blues for white men. If one was enamored by white man blues solos then they may like Eric Clapton. If not, they you would have dislike most of his songwriting. It was generic blues at its worst. Who gives a fuck about his overly sentimental “If I can change the World” which should be the textbook definition of an unctuous musical delivery. Can’t though. This dude went through a lot of shit. He actually did though. He lost his son, and cashed in on it by writing a song that made him millions about his loss. Loss and Bluesmen; what the fuck is with these people? Have they ever thought about a type of losing that isn’t existential, that isn’t so tied to the human death? Eric Clapton didn’t, and he cashed in on it. Not even a greatest hits of his can be listened too. It’s generic wanking inside generic songwriting. The dude even looks generic.

    3. Simon and Garfunkel

    _38867791_simon_garfunkel300afpIt’s hard to understand why Simon and Garfunkel are known as some of the greatest songwriters of all time besides by some of old farts who only passively read Rolling Stone magazine when they’re at the local book store. These songs put you to sleep, and not in the good way. They put you to sleep in the way that you thinking to yourself “shit, this is sucks, I’m going to sleep”. Except for the smashing drum in “The Boxer“, Simon and Garfunkel never deliver any song with any vitriol. Call it a style. We call it the emasculation of a sex who no longer exercised the power it once had over the world. So the reaction would be a sensitive delivery in it’s period of settling down. Whatever was, it was inordinately soft, or to be even more precise, mawkish in every sense of the term.

    2. Lou Reed

    LouReedThis pile of piss songwriter can’t sing, and writes songs that sound dumb but sound interesting to him, and therefore sound interesting to everyone else because he insists on perennially coming from a different place sonically. Who gives a shit about the Sonics (some Old-Wizard pun intended) when the songs are this shit? Yes, he goes up and down on his vocal range, often sounding like a chimp which relays a sense of primordial delivery to a music listener who got beat up too much at school. Rarely will you find a catchy chorus. You will find songs that elaborate on a solipsistic level which obviously means he’s usually talking about drugs or some vulgar conception of metaphysics that’s parasitically tied to a contemporary politic. This dude’s pulled a fast one of those who “love” him. He’s made actual shit that people love. Do people just love shit? Nah, they just can’t tell the difference anymore.

    1. Paul McCartney

    Sir-Paul-McCartney-talks-franceIf there is one signature songwriter who’s absolutely overrated because of the quality of songwriters in the band he’s in, then it has to be Paul McCartney. Let’s list them. “Got to Get You Into My Life“; no soul whatsoever. “The Long and Winding Road” (which we listed as one of the most overrated songs of all time); a poor attempt at Bacharachian appurtenance (and this was when McCartney was supposed to be “coming into his own!”). How about the unbearable “The Night Before” off of Help. How about “Your Mother Should Know”. I can seriously go on and on with the sheer amount of shit songs this man released, and this was just with the Beatles. All his post-Beatles work was even worse, except for the Nigel Godrich produced “Chaos and Creation in the Backyard“, because McCartney actually allowed himself to be challenged by a producer. Paul McCartney is like an average basketball player who thinks he’s a star but knows he really isn’t so tries to get traded to the bad team in the league so he appears as a star there.

81 Comments

  1. Wow UP2IP2, you just tried way too hard. You should go sit in the corner, it failed miserably.

  2. This list is an ignorant pile of garbage. What gives you the right to call Paul McCartney an “overrated” songwriter? What songs of any importance have you ever written. As you said about Paul Westerberg, I’m sure your BEST song (if you have ever written one that is) isn’t as good as the worst song from any of these songwriters, especially those of Paul McCartney. Then again, the rest of the world acknowledges him as a musical god, and no one even knows who you are. So I guess in the end he wins, doesn’t he?

  3. hey beth, what important songs have YOU ever written?

  4. Yeah Beth, what have you written? And how do you know Zeromage isn’t some Grammy award-winning song writer? We don’t know who he is. You made quite an idiot of yourself.

  5. #5 Troll 4 Life says:
    November 20th, 2009 at 9:24 am

    This site = FAAAAAAAIL! Go suck Liam Gallagher’s nutsack, you cock!

  6. I agree with Beth. I hate it when people who know jack shit about actually writing music talk about it. This article sucks.

  7. Also, Eric Clapton is known more for his guitar playing than his songwriting, you fucking jackass.

  8. Also, the author says “Paul Westerberg in his lifetime won’t write a song half as decent as Ryan Adams worst song”. Do you know anything at all about music? Do you? Ryan Adams releases shit that most songwriters would never have included on an album. He should probably stick to one album a year. Also are you going to seriously tell me that Whiskeytown is a better band than the Replacements? Haha. Its not even a close argument. The Replacements were FAR more influential, groundbreaking and important than Ryan Adams could ever hope to be. You, my friend, suck at life.

  9. I don’t Hold Paul McCartney in very high esteem the two best Beatles were John Lennon and George Harrison.

  10. #10 Delta Sucks says:
    November 20th, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    You suck big dick delta

  11. for a second i thought delta sucks was delta LMAO.

  12. #12 NinjaJJ says:
    November 20th, 2009 at 6:51 am

    I am greatly saddened by this list you made Zeromage due to the fact that at lest these are Song writers when you think about it how many of them are left these days you know? Rap, Hip hop, and club music have almost killed all lryics that most song writers have created. Thats is if you don’t count Crank dat Soulja Boy or Jay Z – Run This Town

  13. ya ninjaJJ,it’s upsetting that all the top 10 most overrated songwriters are songwriters.

  14. #14 Bronsonman says:
    November 20th, 2009 at 3:32 am

    Wow, you are such a fucking idiot. Without Macca your precious Oasis would have absolutely no band to copy and thus have no reason for fame. Also, without Lou Reed almost all of the bands y’all hold dear wouldn’t exist. Haha, Oasis can’t even be overrated because they aren’t even held in that kind of esteem anyways.

  15. This was a great list and completely true. Simon and Garfunkel I couldn’t understand. Then I thought about, and they are really boring. The only one I thought wasn’t right was Eric Claptan. Although, Whoever writes the songs for Nickleback should have been on her. Otherwise great list! Keep up the good work.

  16. Phill Collis must be there (Sussudio? WTF is that?)

  17. Alex Kapranos should be on this list.

  18. #18 Mullet2dmax says:
    November 20th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    Holy Fuck are you trying to make Frank Black commit suicide? That was just…. hilarious.
    Lou Reed has been hated for like 30+ years, my parents passed it down to me genetically he’s so bad.
    But you need to fuck Sheryl Crow in the ass alot harder than that. For a bitch who claims to only use 1 piece of toilet paper to wipe her butthole when she shits your really gonna have to get in there and do some deep damage. And don’t forget to make her change that stupid fucking stagename.
    You must think Interpol lyrics are laugh out loud comical.

  19. #19 Troll 4 Life says:
    November 20th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Wow, how small is your penis, Zeromage? Judging by your shitty taste in music, I’m betting your packing a 2.5 incher at most.

  20. And how would one find a correlation between penis size and taste in music, Troll4Life? I’m guessing you’re an expert on dick size, having a love of them.

  21. I guess the fagot who said I suck dick wants to get a room with me and Troll4Life while he fantasizes about me sucking the worthless piece of shit fagot off.

  22. #22 Michaela(Paul's wife) says:
    November 20th, 2009 at 2:15 am

    alright. you son of a bitch. do not EVER, and I mean NEVER bash Paul McCartney… Or Simon and Garfunkel for that matter. These people made music history and I don’t see you doing one damn thing in the musical world.. yeah, how many fucking golden records do YOU have? yeah, that’s right, cock sucker. Paul McCartney is one of the most humble, and considerate musicians out there as well. he isn’t an asshole, and he isn’t a self righteous kind of person, he just gets out there and does what he loves. He’s been through a lot with Jane, Linda, and Heather(the bitch), and he doesn’t need YOU doggin’ on him for some bullshit that isn’t even true. Paul McCartney is probably one of the best songwriters ever, and FUCK YOU if you have a problem with him..
    oh yeah, have a good fucking day.

  23. Michaela, what importance do you have in music history?

  24. Well Michaela lost any potential credibility when actually bringing-up gold records. It’s platinum that matters nowadays, really.

  25. If you ask me, definitely Taylor Swift. Her songs aren’t that good. I noticed that many teenagers like her because she’s beautiful but really not that good.

  26. You forgot Bono..

    Totally agree. Telling people you don’t know about your feelings through the medium of song is something that is unsurprisingly and righteously lambasted..

  27. #27 Ninja Claw says:
    November 20th, 2009 at 4:38 am

    Pete Doherty, Paul Westerberg..How the fuck are they over rated when when they’re barely ever heard of.

  28. i completely agree, also jacob dylan and john lennon suck too

  29. #29 simoniff says:
    November 20th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    too many trolls, not enough wit. like every dirtrag rock magazine out there, zeromage has an opinion, its JUST an opinion, and yes, it would appear that he has a love affair with late 80ties, early 90ties brit shoegaze. in that context, his list makes sense. besides, its his website, and you visited it, read it, and trolled your opinion. mission accomplished. i don’t recall visiting troll 4 life’s website and having a good laugh, so i guess old wizard got one up on you….

  30. to dude

    John Lennon was one of the greatest songwriters of all time. I cannot believe that he died when he was still forty because a fat American psychopath shot him. If he were still alive he would have made more wonderful songs. Thanks dude,one of your people just killed one of the best and you still think he sucks. Listening too much to Taylor Swift’s music that you cannot distinguish great songs from crappy ones? Her music sucks ass.

  31. I don’t know about McCartney but leave John Lennon alone. He has proof of being a great composer.

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