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  • Top 10 Most Powerful Superheroes of All Time

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    Written by Zeromage 5,644 Comments
    Last Updated:: May 23, 2008

    Here it is folks, the biggest debate on the whole interweb. Never has there been a more well thought out argument for a completely non-existent thing. Which superhero could beat up which other superhero. Never has a group of people spent more time drawing graphs, doing calculations, making charts, and writing computer programs to prove that the hero they love is in fact the toughest. These people do more literature searches than a graduate student writing their dissertation on literature. One can only imagine what world problems could be solved if comic book nerds would instead focus this same energy on say; poverty, healthcare, the climate, pollution, the economy, childhood obesity, cancer, sudden infant death syndrome, racism, genetic disorders, violence against women, the melting ice caps, sending a man to mars, depression, solving Goldbach’s conjecture, creating a unified field theory, un-raveling the mystery of DNA, figuring out what happened before the big bang, resolving religious tensions in the Middle East, finding peace on Earth, making cleaner cars, sustainable energy, nuclear fission, getting rid of hippies, and the million other things that would make this world a better place to live in.

    So in order to finish this debate once and for all we here at OW have finally finished THE list of the most powerful superheros. This is it folks. As every faithful reader knows that we here at OW are always right, we have proved it in the past. There can no longer be any debate. No more argument required. This list has taken us years to complete, and has threatened to destroy all that is OW. While making this list there was lots arguing, name calling, some shouting, a little bit of snuggling, more shouting, lots of your momma’s, but we finally came up with the definitive list of the most powerful superheroes of all time. We can’t be more clear on that last point, this is it. None of what you are about to read is opinion, it is fact. Next time one of your nerd buddies starts to argue you need only refer to this list, kindly pat him the head a give him one of the problems listed above to argue about. Here’s how we did it. First we excluded all super villains, this is heroes only, next we eliminated all exorbitantly overpowered cosmic beings (Phoenix, Odin, or the Highfather). And finally we ignored all heroes that would be considered ‘normal’ but have similar powers as those listed below. Then we plugged in all the facts and figures into the OW super computer and waited. Exactly 137 days later the answer was spit out. It then took us one year to figure out what that answer meant. Finally its over, these are the most powerful superheroes. Fact.

    10. The Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)

    Despite coming in at number 10, The Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) is one tough hombre. As a member of the Green Lantern Corps, he wields a power ring that can generate a variety of effects and energy constructs, sustained purely by the ring wearer’s strength of will. The greater the user’s willpower, the more effective the ring. The limits of the power ring’s abilities are never defined, but it has been referred to as “the most powerful weapon in the universe” on more than one occasion. It’s precious. Over the years, the ring has been shown capable of accomplishing almost anything within the imagination of the ring bearer. Often the rings are used to form solid-light constructs, the power and size of which are limited only by the ring-bearer’s willpower. And, if that wasn’t powerful enough, DC recently (in 2006) retconned the ring’s longtime lack of effect on yellow objects, stating that the ring-bearer need only feel fear and overcome it in order to affect yellow objects. With his protective bubbles and mean green energy bursts, the Green Lantern has fought with, and at varying times against, such heavyweights as Superman and Captain Marvel. But he’s still no match for number 9 on our list…

    9. Doctor Strange

    Earth’s Sorcerer Supreme, Doctor Steven Strange, has unparalleled sagicity of the mystic arts, and stands as humanity’s first and last line of defense against all magic-based menaces that threaten our dimension. I think Doc Strange is probably one of the more powerful characters in the Marvel Universe, and light years ahead of any of the crappy sorcerers from DC (although Zatanna is way hotter). Given that he can do pretty much anything that the person who is currently writing him can imagine, he could potentially beat any of the other characters in this list. In fact, he could probably beat some of them by simply wiggling his finger. Of course this assumes that he would enough time to do so. The problem is that most of the other heroes on this list won’t give him even that small amount of time. His lack of super speed, super reaction time, super senses and any sort of super human invulnerability, make Dr. Strange one of the easiest characters to defeat on this list. For this reason alone we put Dr. Strange at #5. If he had unlimited prep time before each fight, he could easily be number one on this list.

    8. Black Bolt

    Our seventh most powerful superhero of all time is Black Bolt, the king of the offshoot of humanity known as the inhumans. Black Bolt has often been described as one of the most powerful superheroes in the Marvel universe by other heroes, and for good reason. Through electron gathering and manipulation, Black Bolt can increase any aspect of his physical nature to superhuman levels, including his strength, speed, stamina and durability. In times of great need, he can channel this power into a single devastating punch called “The Master Blow”. He can also harness the electrons for matter transformation; the controlled projection of energy as concussive blasts or quasi-solid particle/electron fiends, broadcasting jamming frequencies, and flight. But Black Bolt’s most salient offensive weapon is his cacophonous voice, as a hypersonic shout that can level an entire city, and his merest whisper has been shown capable of stunning the Hulk. It’s even been suggested that his voice is capable of destroying an entire planet.

    7. The Flash

    People who don’t know a lot about comic books often assume that the Flash can run really fast, but is otherwise a normal guy.  He can turn his opponent into a statue, or phase his hand through his opponent’s head, causing it to explode.  He is also impressively durable for a normal human, and most, though not all, of his impressive feats of durability have been while moving faster than normal. Many times he’s taken hits from Class-100 opponents, various energy blasts, ect. and ranged from quickly recovers to unfazed.  Not only is Flash faster than Pre-CRISIS Kryptonians(and Silver Age Superman was so fast, not only count he travel through time and dimensions through speed, but he nearly broke the barrier between Life And Death and was about to crash into Heaven), but he’ll probably have a few examples of simply phasing through to avoid, as well. And Flash doesn’t need to cause the charge that causes matter to explode every time he vibrates through something.

    6. The Martian Manhunter

    The Martian Manhunter’s chief super power is super strength. Super strength and durability. His two powers are super strength, durability and flight. His three powers are super strength, durability, flight and shapeshifting. Amongst his many powers are super strength, durability, flight and shapeshifting… I’ll come in again. The Martian Manhunter is basically the Swiss army knife of Superheroes. Along with all those powers, he has super speed and “Martian” vision, both at levels close to those of Superman himself. He not only can turn invisible but also alter his density to become incredibly strong, tough and ultimately intangible. In addition to his physical powers, J’onn is also a very powerful telepath. He also possesses 9 different senses, though these are ill defined and often forgotten by comic book writers. And if superhuman physical strength and mental powers aren’t enough, J’onn also has the ability to regenerate. In the past he’s even regenerated his entire body from only his severed hand.

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  2. #2 ShadowHunter says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Alberto : I seriously think, not because I like him, that Batman is a better fighter than Cap.

  3. #3 Alberto says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    @Brett

    What???

    I can’t believe it

  4. #4 ShadowHunter says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    BERSERKR : Thor full depowered won’t give any trouble to Batman. Even if he had a little more strenght than him. Should I say that Batman managed to beat Killer Croc, Bane, Blockbuster, Man-Bat, Solomon Grundy, etc. Strenght doesn’t scare Batman. Classic Thor would destroy Batman (With his abilities) but without powers? Thor is seriously dead (even if Batman won’t kill him).

  6. #6 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    See, i seriously think none of you even care for or like Thor so of course you will think he is the lesser as your knowledge of him is not so great, i am in fact a fan of all comics, i love THor, and Superman, Batman etc, so i think i am a little less biased than most.

    Again and i quote from Caps own mouth!

    “He is an expert combatant, having been trained for hundreds of years in the art of war.” “His understanding of tactics and strategies ENCOMPASSES the teaching of cultures over several centuries.”

  7. #7 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    And you say SUpes has gone up against beings such as imperiex and even tougher foes? well in JLA/Avengeres SUpes himself says Thor may be the single toughest opponent he has ever faced, so it would not be so one sided as Supes fanboys always want to believe.

  8. #8 Darryl says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    I have agree with Berserkr you showing bais. Thor fighting skill by far surpass Superman. Alberto & Shadowhunter I know you guys are Superman fans but this is not a good argument to get into.

  9. #9 Darryl says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    Batman & Captain America are consider the best hand to hand fighters in comic books but this mainly do to their physical skill combine with their tactically abilities. If Thor & Captain American was to fight with Thor having no super abilities it not a sure bet that Capt America would win. If Batman & Superman fought and Superman had no super powers it’s sure bet that batman would win.

  10. #10 Alberto says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    I’m a Superman fan, but I’m trying to be objective here.

    I agree that Depowered Superman will get defeated by Batman.

    I will put my money on Cap if is Cap vs Depowered Thor.

    I will put my money on Batman vs Depowered Thor.

    Superman and Thor have two different combat styles

    Thor is a brawler and Superman is a Martial artist.

    To what degree We don’t know.

    The fighting style of Captain America cannot be compared to the fighting style of Thor.

    http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/capvsthor.jpg?t=1262289047

    Saying that Cap fighting capabilities are equal to Thor’s is a blasphemy. Thor is not equal to Cap in fighting skills.

    And that Black Phanter thing, Cap is basically saying that is a sparing fight not a real fight.
    Pretty much like Superman vs Flash in a charity race

  11. #11 Brett says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    @Alberto: When Cap said “In a real fight? i dont think so.” It coulda been legit but at the same time he coulda just been talkin shit. They both have peak human abilities (ppl forget that T’Challa has eaten the heart-shaped herb) and T’Challa has trained in a bigger variety of Martial Arts than Cap. T’Challa has trained since he was a kid to take the Royal title of Black Panther and defend his country from all adversaries. And his intelligence rivals Batmans (But no one is fuckin wit Batman). And what about the first scans i posted about Panther defeating Cap? whats ur take on that Alberto?

  12. #12 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Superman is a martial artist? so they say but all i have seen him do is throw wild punches, i haven never even seen the man Kick.

  14. #14 Alberto says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    @Brett

    Agreed. T’Challa could be better than Cap.

    I don’t like it but it could be

  16. #16 Alberto says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    Depowered Superman fights Captain America Style too

    http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/151hw.jpg?t=1262295417

  17. #17 Alberto says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    There is no need to go martial arts on everybody, if they don’t need it.

    What will do a presure point on Lex lungs?

    He uses it with whom can take the punishment

  18. #18 ShadowHunter says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 12:14 am

    Alberto : I know that Wonder Woman taught him some stuff but it never has been showed wich stuff.

  19. #19 Alberto says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 12:23 am

    Just regular military hand to hand combat.

    Nothing in particular. I can imagine He pretty much knows how to kill someone with preassure points.

    One more thing Superman is willing to kill if needed.

    He has executed someone in the past and He did not hold back against Darkseid. I’ll show the scan next

  20. #20 ShadowHunter says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 12:25 am

    Maybe Wonder Woman showed him how to use weapons such as swords. Even if he never use weapons, I am pretty much sure he knows how to use those.

  23. #23 Alberto says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 12:31 am

    @ShadowHunter

    Maybe, he has bear weapons in the past. It just does not go with him.

    He knows how to build and use Kryptonian weaponry

  24. #24 ShadowHunter says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Alberto : Could you post what happens next?

    Well, Superman managed to build himself some robots that protect his forteress.

  25. #25 ShadowHunter says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 1:10 am

    By the way Alberto : You think Full Odin Thor has a chance against The Spectre?

  26. #26 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    Have you read Final Crisis or any stories with the Specter ShadowHunter? The Specter does not seem so powerful to me, he got his but kicked by some pretty weak arse duders, Put it this way, Odin fighting his evil twin at one point destroyed countless Galaxies, Full on Odin FOrce Thors power is near limitless, he would annihilate the Specter, Supes could Kick Spectres ass, anyway, i never noticed the Hulk Fanboy, thats our cue both SUpes and Thor fans to UNITE against this foolish Mortal!

  27. #27 ShadowHunter says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 2:51 am

    BERSEKR : If you think The Spectre is weak, you must not known anything about him. The Spectre answer from The Presence itself. He has INFINITE MAGICAL powers. Let me give you a list of his abilities. By the way, his abilities change by host. Here is the list.

    Powers

    * Omnipotence: Divine Wrath: As a spiritual entity, the Spectre cannot be slain in the conventional sense, though he can be destroyed by sufficiently powerful means.

    * Intangibility:

    * Flight: ability to fly at any speed

    * Invisibility:

    * Teleportation:

    * Size Alteration: The Spectre can increase or decrease his overall volume to nearly any size he chooses. The limits of this ability are subject only to the degree of power available to him at any one time. At the height of his power, the Spectre has been able to make himself large enough to literally straddle planets. It should be noted that although his volume may increase, this does not necessarily mean that his mass or density will increase in proportion (although it could if he so chooses). There have been many instances where the Spectre has increased his volume to mountain-sized levels without causing any structural damage to the environment around him. In contrast, the Spectre can compress his corporeal form and has been known to become small enough that he could exist inside of a needle.

    * Metamorphosis: The Spectre can alter his basic physical form into any number of geometric shapes. This is used primarily as an intimidation tactic, and if he chooses, he can alter his traditional physical appearance to include extraneous characteristics such as extra limbs, horns, claws, etc. The Spectre’s mien usually adapts facial characteristics from his human hosts such as Jim Corrigan, Hal Jordan and Crispus Allen.

    * Elasticity: The Spectre’s physical form, comprised mostly of ectoplasm, can stretch and compress to varying lengths and thickness.

    * Fear Projection: ability to project fear into the heart and souls of his adversaries.

    * Inanimate Possession: inhabit and animate inanimate objects

    * Illusion Casting: ability to project realistic illusions

    * Impenetrable Mists

    * Astral Projection:

    * Sorcery: Possesses mastery over virtually all forms of magic use.

    * Discern Motivation: sense the intentions of people in the place where they plan to carry those intentions out.

    * Cosmic Awareness: The Spectre knows many secrets of the universe and its inhabitants, though even he is not omniscient.

    * Precognition: The Spectre can sometimes get glimpses into the future, although this is not without great difficulty. The only time he was given a long, vivid glimpse into the future was when the Presence granted him one in order to warn the JLA and prevent universal destruction.

    * Superhuman Strength:

    * Superhuman Durability:

    * Super-Speed:

    * Invulnerability: The Spectre is impervious to nearly all forms of physical damage.
    Abilities
    * Occultism: The Spectre is knowledgeable of the occult, the history of various occult-related rituals and demonology.

    * Intimidation: Less a skill than an application of his powers, the Spectre excels at being able to intimidate and frighten his adversaries. This is usually done through showy spectacles such as assuming a monstrous appearance, growing in size, projecting a loud, booming voice, etc.
    Strength level

    Near-limitless; the Spectre was able to sink Atlantis simply by stepping on it.

    Superman WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO KICK THE SPECTRE ASS. The Spectre can never be killed. He can disapear from it’s host after a battle but The Presence will just bring it back. Please! Learn your stuff!!! I always need to give information to people about stuff they say that they need but in reality, they know nothing about it.

  28. #28 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 4:38 am

    All i know is The Spectre hasn’t been doing so well in recent stories i have read involving him against foes not so great or powerful.

  29. #29 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 4:43 am

    A small taste of Odins power.

    Odin’s power was so vast, that when a part of Odin, his dark side called Infinity went rogue, it was so large that it could crush planets in its grip as if they were pebbles, his mere limbs stretched as far as galaxies, Infinity was tearing away at the very fabric of the Universe, and if left unchecked would have ended all life and crushed the very Universe. Odin’s battle with Infinity destroyed entire galaxies and countless worlds. When awoken from his trance by Thor, Odin swiftly got rid of Infinity and with one simple act was powerful enough to restore all the damage Infinity had caused across the Universe in moments

  30. #30 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 4:45 am

    Odin was able to quickly overpower Annihilus (a virtually immortal being wielding a Cosmic Control Rod rendering him powerful enough to nearly eliminate the entire known universe) when the latter attempted to seize Asgard when its dimension intersected with that of the Negative Zone, after both Thor and the other Asgardians had failed in combat, [18] and is capable of destroying entire galaxies

  31. #31 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 4:46 am

    Odin’s power is such, that it has stated it rivaled the likes of Galactus at his peak

  32. #32 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 4:46 am

    Odin was so powerful that even while severely weakened, in his fight with Seth which was waged on every plane of existence simultaneously, the energy released from their battle was so powerful it shattered countless entire galaxies, reignited dying suns, and shook the very fabric of the Multiverse

  33. #33 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 4:48 am

    Thor is also half Eldar god, and he is just starting to learn more of his powers from his mothers side.

  34. #34 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 4:54 am

    SOme examples of Thors Strength

    Thor was even capable of supporting and lifting the weight of the entire planet on his shoulders. He possesses the unimaginable level of strength necessary enough to crush entire moons in his fists, and even shatter entire planets with the force of his blows. When he went insane, Thor struck Beta Ray Bill with such force, he destroyed the planet they were on.

  35. #35 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 4:54 am

    his strength is so immeasurable he has killed both the Thing and the Hulk at once in unarmed combat with his physical strength when enraged

  36. #36 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 4:58 am

    he has been able to break out of Adamantium alloy coils easily[25], dent a solid block of pure Adamantium with a single blow, and even create enough force between his finger to shatter Uru itself into nothing but metallic dust

  37. #37 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 5:00 am

    He possesses practically inexhaustible stamina. He can exert himself at peak capacity for countless months on end at the very least without tiring at all. Thor was able to fight non stop, for more than 9 months straight, from day to night, without any sustenance or rest, against the entire Frost Giant’s army, without tiring at all[28]. Thor was even able to fight the Sky father Zeus for entire months on end pushing himself, from day to night without stopping for anything, and he still did not tire.

  38. #38 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 5:00 am

    Thor is so mind numbingly durable he was capable of withstanding a blast that had the power of an exploding Sun, unharmed

  39. #39 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 5:03 am

    Thor is a superbly skilled warrior trained in the arts of war with over countless years of combat experience. He is one of the most skilled fighters to ever walk the planet. He has been able to fight and gain the advantage with Captain America when powerless to the point he was mortal

  40. #40 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 5:05 am

    that is just a tiny portion of the power that which is Thor and Odin, not even scratching the surface or mentioning what Mjolnir is truly capable of.

  41. #41 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 5:10 am

    His Godly energy is so vast and powerful, that even when reinforced with the Belt of Strength, which should double Mjolnir’s fortification and durability, when Thor channeled his Godly energies into Mjolinr to destroy the Brain Dome of the mighty Celestial Exitar, the hammer shattered from the amount of power Thor channeled(This is a testament to the power Thor wields as Mjolnir has been able to contain blats powerful enough to destroy an entire Galaxy without so much as cracking.) The God Blast is so immensely powerful and destructive that it has proven capable of destroying beings as large and as powerful as the Midgard Serpent and even causing such a great degree of damage to a being such as Galactus that he was forced to flee for his life. Thor has used this ability only a few times.

  42. #42 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 5:14 am

    Anyway i guess there is no reason to continue the debate as no one side will ever bend to the other :P

  43. #43 ShadowHunter says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 5:38 am

    BERSERKR : Stuff you said is things we already know. Still, most of us think Superman would win against Thor. The Spectre would kick Thor ass. Thor is a Asgard God. He’s not a Midgard god. By the way, Superman is a demi-god too. He’s a direct descendant of the god Rao. And being a god doesn’t mean anything. Wonder Woman worked for Zeus, Poseidon, Hermes, etc. They are all gods. Still, they aren’t stronger than The Spectre, The Presence, Anti-Monitor, Imperiex Prime, etc.. Being a God in the comic universe doesn’t mean anything.

    Let’s see how fanboy you are. Who’s stronger. Superboy Prime or Thor?

  44. #44 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 7:57 am

    You prove your fanboyism by saying The Spectre would kick Thors ass, if he won or not it would still be an incredibly hard fought battle, defeating Thor is no easy task he is one of the most powerful beings in all of comics, along with Supes Spectre ect..

    As for Superboy Prime, He has been defeated in the past and i am sure one way or anothother Thor would find a way to defeat him as he has done with all his foes, but since i am not just a fan boy i wont go as far as to say he would kick his ass.

  45. #45 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 8:02 am

    None of the powers of the SPecter would be able to do much harm to Thor, there strength is at least equal, being able to grow or stretch, teleportation ect, would do nothing against Thor, also.

    The Spectre can be injured or even slain by sufficient magic force, most notably the Spear of Destiny or a fully empowered Eclipso. Or mes more powerful, perhaps, Mjolnir, Gungnir(Odins spear,) any sufficient magical attack from Mjolnir or the Odin force such as magically enhanced Lightning, made 100 times more powerful, the god Blast, the list goes on.

  46. #46 ShadowHunter says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 8:39 am

    BERSERKR : Eclipso is not a weak being. Just so you know. The Spectre is almost 5 times stronger than Superman. Even Captain Marvel and Shazam lost against him. Shazam is a WAY MORE powerful magician than Doctor Strange in my book.

    About Superboy Prime, you know the details atleast? Superboy Prime ISN’T dead. He’s just in his old universe reading comics. Let me give you some stuff he did. He killed 30-40 Green Lanterns, kicked Ion’s ass, withstand the suicide blast of a Guardian of the Universe and EVEN ABSORBED IT. (That blast gave him the energy to become an adult). He was terribly more powerful with that energy in him. He gave the final hit to the Anti-Monitor and even threw him in space. He killed bunch of JLA and JSA members, shattered time and reality with his punches, etc. Superboy Prime is a PC Superman (He haven’t showed the normal feats of a PC Superman but he’s still PC). The guy is a brute. He’s like a Hulk Superman. He doesn’t give a shit about people. He just want to be the most annoying and the most powerful villain Superman ever encountered. And god, he wants to be Superman!

    BERSERKR : You can’t slain The Spectre. He can’t die. You can make the entity go away but The Presence will bring him back. Thor wouldn’t be able to kill him. Even if he could beat him once, The Spectre would just come back. Oh and if I good remember, Thor doesn’t have infinite quantity of Odin Force. Thor isn’t a very powerful magic user. He’s much more a good cosmic user. Oh and what?! Thor is the most powerful being IN ALL THE COMICS? Anti-Monitor, Imperiex Prime, Galactus, The Beyonder, The One Above All, The Presence, The Spectre, Emperor Joker, Zero Hour Parallax, Ion, Gold Superman Prime, Superboy Prime, etc..

    BERSERKR : By the way, you lost all your credibility by saying that Thor and The Spectre strenght is equal! DON’T FREAKING MAKE ME LAUGH! Superman is STRONGER THAN THOR AND STILL, THE SPECTRE IS 10 TIMES STRONGER THAN HE IS! Man, you really have to start reading some DC Comics about Superman and The Spectre. God, maybe all the DC comics…

  47. #47 Whodaman says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 8:44 am

    I haven’t seen anyone who would stand a chance against Dr. Manhattan.

  48. #48 BERSERKR says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 8:49 am

    Thor no longer has the Oden Force no, and the point is that i am sure Thor could beat The Specter, not kill him forever, i understand that can’t be done, but he can be defeated, as Thor can too of course, i am not saying he is un beatable, also Superboy prime is a brute and what he did was quite amazing, but pretty sure Thor could do the same if he was pissed of and didn’t care about the lives he took.

    And i said Thor is ONE of the most powerful in comics.

    I will not concede that Superman is stronger than Thor as OW has stated as well, Superman himself said that Thor could very well be the most powerful opponent he has ever faced, and he didn’t even see a fraction of his power.

    ANd i do read DC, i read pretty much every comic that comes out.

  49. #49 Alberto says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    Saying that Thor will defeat the spectre or superboy prime is crazy.

    The spectre will have a good fight against Odin Force Thor, But seeing how The Spectre defeated Shazan on the rock of eternity (his home turf) Will point at The Spectre being able to defeat The Odin Force, but this is debatable.

    Highfather beings like Zeus, Shazam, Phantom Stranger are just a little bit below the Spectre each one of them could give the Spectre a good fight, depending on the Host, the rules and the limitations the Presence gives to the Spectre. Remember, for the Spectre power relies on what the Presence wishes.

    Talking about fighting Highfathers Superboy Prime and Doomsday have survived explosions that Killed Guardians of the Universe. They were not Gantet the Guardian high father, but pretty close to him.

    Thor spliting lanets with his punches aganst BRB I think was done with warriors madeness.

    I agree that Thor is really powerful, but something that people seem to forget is that Superman rarelly shows his true power, and Thor displays a lot of his power in most Issues. This might give the impresion that Thor is more powerful, but is not the case if the other guy rarely shows his true power.

    I think Superman is faster and Superman defitnelly hits harder, way harder than Thor.

    This two things make Superman the Muhamed Ali of comics, while not invencible, you have to respect him

  50. #50 ShadowHunter says:
    March 18th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    BERSERKR : Superman has faced way more powerful opponents than Thor. Anti-Monitor, Emperor Joker, Krona, Imperiex Prime, Doomsday, etc.. These are all good examples.

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