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  • Top 10 Most Powerful Superheroes of All Time

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    Written by Zeromage 5,570 Comments
    Last Updated:: May 23, 2008

    Here it is folks, the biggest debate on the whole interweb. Never has there been a more well thought out argument for a completely non-existent thing. Which superhero could beat up which other superhero. Never has a group of people spent more time drawing graphs, doing calculations, making charts, and writing computer programs to prove that the hero they love is in fact the toughest. These people do more literature searches than a graduate student writing their dissertation on literature. One can only imagine what world problems could be solved if comic book nerds would instead focus this same energy on say; poverty, healthcare, the climate, pollution, the economy, childhood obesity, cancer, sudden infant death syndrome, racism, genetic disorders, violence against women, the melting ice caps, sending a man to mars, depression, solving Goldbach’s conjecture, creating a unified field theory, un-raveling the mystery of DNA, figuring out what happened before the big bang, resolving religious tensions in the Middle East, finding peace on Earth, making cleaner cars, sustainable energy, nuclear fission, getting rid of hippies, and the million other things that would make this world a better place to live in.

    So in order to finish this debate once and for all we here at OW have finally finished THE list of the most powerful superheros. This is it folks. As every faithful reader knows that we here at OW are always right, we have proved it in the past. There can no longer be any debate. No more argument required. This list has taken us years to complete, and has threatened to destroy all that is OW. While making this list there was lots arguing, name calling, some shouting, a little bit of snuggling, more shouting, lots of your momma’s, but we finally came up with the definitive list of the most powerful superheroes of all time. We can’t be more clear on that last point, this is it. None of what you are about to read is opinion, it is fact. Next time one of your nerd buddies starts to argue you need only refer to this list, kindly pat him the head a give him one of the problems listed above to argue about. Here’s how we did it. First we excluded all super villains, this is heroes only, next we eliminated all exorbitantly overpowered cosmic beings (Phoenix, Odin, or the Highfather). And finally we ignored all heroes that would be considered ‘normal’ but have similar powers as those listed below. Then we plugged in all the facts and figures into the OW super computer and waited. Exactly 137 days later the answer was spit out. It then took us one year to figure out what that answer meant. Finally its over, these are the most powerful superheroes. Fact.

    10. The Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)

    Despite coming in at number 10, The Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) is one tough hombre. As a member of the Green Lantern Corps, he wields a power ring that can generate a variety of effects and energy constructs, sustained purely by the ring wearer’s strength of will. The greater the user’s willpower, the more effective the ring. The limits of the power ring’s abilities are never defined, but it has been referred to as “the most powerful weapon in the universe” on more than one occasion. It’s precious. Over the years, the ring has been shown capable of accomplishing almost anything within the imagination of the ring bearer. Often the rings are used to form solid-light constructs, the power and size of which are limited only by the ring-bearer’s willpower. And, if that wasn’t powerful enough, DC recently (in 2006) retconned the ring’s longtime lack of effect on yellow objects, stating that the ring-bearer need only feel fear and overcome it in order to affect yellow objects. With his protective bubbles and mean green energy bursts, the Green Lantern has fought with, and at varying times against, such heavyweights as Superman and Captain Marvel. But he’s still no match for number 9 on our list…

    9. Doctor Strange

    Earth’s Sorcerer Supreme, Doctor Steven Strange, has unparalleled sagicity of the mystic arts, and stands as humanity’s first and last line of defense against all magic-based menaces that threaten our dimension. I think Doc Strange is probably one of the more powerful characters in the Marvel Universe, and light years ahead of any of the crappy sorcerers from DC (although Zatanna is way hotter). Given that he can do pretty much anything that the person who is currently writing him can imagine, he could potentially beat any of the other characters in this list. In fact, he could probably beat some of them by simply wiggling his finger. Of course this assumes that he would enough time to do so. The problem is that most of the other heroes on this list won’t give him even that small amount of time. His lack of super speed, super reaction time, super senses and any sort of super human invulnerability, make Dr. Strange one of the easiest characters to defeat on this list. For this reason alone we put Dr. Strange at #5. If he had unlimited prep time before each fight, he could easily be number one on this list.

    8. Black Bolt

    Our seventh most powerful superhero of all time is Black Bolt, the king of the offshoot of humanity known as the inhumans. Black Bolt has often been described as one of the most powerful superheroes in the Marvel universe by other heroes, and for good reason. Through electron gathering and manipulation, Black Bolt can increase any aspect of his physical nature to superhuman levels, including his strength, speed, stamina and durability. In times of great need, he can channel this power into a single devastating punch called “The Master Blow”. He can also harness the electrons for matter transformation; the controlled projection of energy as concussive blasts or quasi-solid particle/electron fiends, broadcasting jamming frequencies, and flight. But Black Bolt’s most salient offensive weapon is his cacophonous voice, as a hypersonic shout that can level an entire city, and his merest whisper has been shown capable of stunning the Hulk. It’s even been suggested that his voice is capable of destroying an entire planet.

    7. The Flash

    People who don’t know a lot about comic books often assume that the Flash can run really fast, but is otherwise a normal guy.  He can turn his opponent into a statue, or phase his hand through his opponent’s head, causing it to explode.  He is also impressively durable for a normal human, and most, though not all, of his impressive feats of durability have been while moving faster than normal. Many times he’s taken hits from Class-100 opponents, various energy blasts, ect. and ranged from quickly recovers to unfazed.  Not only is Flash faster than Pre-CRISIS Kryptonians(and Silver Age Superman was so fast, not only count he travel through time and dimensions through speed, but he nearly broke the barrier between Life And Death and was about to crash into Heaven), but he’ll probably have a few examples of simply phasing through to avoid, as well. And Flash doesn’t need to cause the charge that causes matter to explode every time he vibrates through something.

    6. The Martian Manhunter

    The Martian Manhunter’s chief super power is super strength. Super strength and durability. His two powers are super strength, durability and flight. His three powers are super strength, durability, flight and shapeshifting. Amongst his many powers are super strength, durability, flight and shapeshifting… I’ll come in again. The Martian Manhunter is basically the Swiss army knife of Superheroes. Along with all those powers, he has super speed and “Martian” vision, both at levels close to those of Superman himself. He not only can turn invisible but also alter his density to become incredibly strong, tough and ultimately intangible. In addition to his physical powers, J’onn is also a very powerful telepath. He also possesses 9 different senses, though these are ill defined and often forgotten by comic book writers. And if superhuman physical strength and mental powers aren’t enough, J’onn also has the ability to regenerate. In the past he’s even regenerated his entire body from only his severed hand.

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  1. But he’s still too powerful for the list.

  2. #2 ShadowHunter says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 12:16 am

    Avi : I know. But this list isn’t supposed to contain any cosmic being. I just don’t understand why Silver Surfer is in the list and Ion isn’t.

  3. #3 alberto says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 5:03 am

    @ShadowHunter

    “Alberto : You think Zauriel could cut Hulk in half with Michaels Sword?”

    This one, I don’t know. I assume because is a weapon from heaven it should be able to do it.

    I think it will. It will alson depend on HULK’s mood. :D

  4. @Darryl

    Sorry Alberto you are wrong again Hulk rage is unlimited his Strength direct proportion to his rage. Look it up. That what determine is strength level is his rage that why Hulk alway saying the madder Hulk get the stronger Hulk gets. Because rage has no limit that why his strength has no limits.

    This makes me realize you may not know that much about the Hulk even though you like to down him.

    So I take it you have verify my soruce about the Hulk abilities Alberto because you never respond about Hulk’s powers.

    I see your scan of superman knocking someone into orbit. Two problem; 1st very rarely do you see people of equal strength knock each other into orbit. 2nd problem Hulk capable of doing same to Superman. Also I think both heroes have proof they are capable holding their own ground in battles. So is it possible they could knock each other into orbit? Answer is yes. Is it likely? Answer is no.

    dude theres a shitload of flaws in every comment you make. ONE YES SUPERMAN COULD FUCK HULKS SHIT UP HARDCORE IT DOESN’T MATTER HOW STRONG HE CAN GET, BUT HOW STRONG HE WILL GET BEFORE HE GETS HIS ASS THROWN INTO SPACE. TWO, DOOMSDAY CAN AND WILL EVENTUALLY FIGHT HULK(if he hasn’t already i don’t really read hulk shit) AND HE WILL KILL HIM BECAUSE DOOMSDAY IN INVULNERABLE NOW, NOTHING CAN CAUSE HIM PHYSICAL INJURIES, HE HAS TO BE DESTROYED ON A CELLULAR OF CHEMICAL LEVEL BECAUSE HES SO DURABLE HE GOT ACID THROWN ON HIM WHEN HIS FATHER MADE HIM TO PUSH HIM TO BEING STRONGER.

    and also, I think that this guy,
    http://marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/1/18/Gladiator442.jpg/440px-Gladiator442.jpg

    Gladiator possesses a number of superhuman capabilities as a result of his unique alien physiology including:
    -superhuman strength (capable of shattering a planet)
    -superhuman speed
    -stamina and durability (capable of withstanding an -explosion equivalent to a supernova)
    -superhuman reflexes
    -heat vision (stated as “hotter than a star”)
    -frost breath
    -capable of warp speed flight (measured as “a hundred times the speed of light”)

    Gladiator’s abilities increase and decrease in accordance with his level of confidence and is vulnerable to a certain form of rare radiation.

    should be on the list once again, because he can kill anyone on the list, haha try me on this one I can tell you how he’ll kill all of them, Kallark is a pimp, he can and will fuck everyone on this list no problem

    EVERYONE ON THE LIST<Gladiator why??? WARP SPEED PUNCH JUST KNOCKS HIS ASS STRAIGHT INTO BLACK HOLE!!! CAUSE HE JUST GOES HUNDREDS OF TIMES LIGHT SPEED AND PUNCHES THEM, THE PURE INERTIA FROM THE PUNCH WOULD KNOCK THEM LIGHT YEARS AWAY. NO QUESTION HE COULD KILL EVERYONE WITH THAT SHIT, EVEN THE ONES WHO CAN SURVIVE IN SPACE WOULD DIE FROM THE PUNCH.

    Gladiator(Kallark) would epically kick Hulks ass I know your gonna talk about it Darryl noone cares how big your boner for hulk is, Kallark would either burn his ass up with the head vision, or light speed punch him to death.

  5. #5 alberto says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 8:14 am

    This is for all of those guys who think that Galactus is omnipotent

    As stated in the ORIGIN OF GALACTUS

    “A LIVING ORGANISM WHO POSSESSES THE MATCHLESS POWER AND RAGING APPETITE OF A GALAXY, BUT HE SHALL BE MORE THAN A GALAXY…HE SHALL BE A GALACTIC RAVAGER…HE SHALL BE GALACTUS”

    http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/galactus.gif?t=1261036541

    Galactus power level without weapons
    Above Galaxy buster but below Universe buster

    Universe buster power level should be
    someone with the Infinity Gauntlet, the Beyonder, Anti-monitor, Zero hour Parallax, Desaak.

    You get the picture

  6. @Shadow Hunter, This list only excludes EXORBITANTLY OVERPOWERED cosmic beings. Silver Surfer is therefore eligible for the list.

  7. #7 ShadowHunter says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    Avi : Than Ion should be first (With Sodam Yat of course).

    Will : Hulk is supposed to have unlimited strenght but he doesn’t have unlimited rage. Even if Hulk could punch Superman in space… Superman can fly. Hulk can’t. Superman has prooved to be a good user of his speed. He used it against a bunch of ennemies that sometimes, were stronger than him. Is Hulk faster than Superman? No. Hulk won’t even be able to see him coming. What would stop Superman to freeze him with his breath (It worked on Doomsday so it is going to work on Hulk) and throw him in space while he’s frozen? Nothing. Superman is a much more intelligent fighter than Hulk. Hulk is a brute. He doesn’t care about what he destroy. He’ll just throw anything he find to Superman. Hulk doesn’t really know the art of fighting. Like alberto said, Superman has learned from Wonder Woman (Amazon), Batman (The pro of the Martial Art), the Kryptonians, learned how magic works with Zatanna, etc. I understand that Banner is intelligent but Superman is too. God, he even made vehicules for himself, robots (in a different universe) that could protect his forteress, etc. The guy is farrr away from being stupid and he will use this intelligence to beat Hulk. People always come out with : Hulk has a terribly good regeneration. If Superman is full powered by Yellow Sun, Hulk doesn’t stand a chance.

  8. #8 ShadowHunter says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    Will : Gladiator is copy of Superman. Anyway, Superman has way more incredible feats than Gladiator. Bring me proof of what you are claiming (scans) and I’ll see. I am not going to post scans here since Delta and Alberto already posted a BUNCH. Just go in the older comments. There is a bunch of scans in the Thor vs Superman debate too.

  9. #9 Kallark says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Gladiator is a copy of Superman 10X. He can move 100X the speed of light, survive a supernova and punch through a planet.

  10. #10 Kallark says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    Alberto: What is that statement about Galactus supposed to prove? Its nothing but hyperbole. Jeesh.

  11. 1) Sentry (Power of a million exploding suns)
    2) Thor
    3) Silver Surfer
    4) Superman
    5) Captain Marvel
    6) The Flash
    7) Green Lantern
    8) Orion
    9) Black Bolt
    10) Sersei

  12. #12 Alberto says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    @Kallark

    I know it, somebody will say

    “it’s a hyperbole”

    No my friend you are wrong unlees show me with scans otherwise.

    Galactus is galaxy buster, but not universe Buster. If he were universe buster, he should not get defeated by the infinti gauntlet or the heart of the universe in “the end” saga.

    Galactus with out weapons cannot destroy the universe.

    “Gladiator is a copy of Superman 10X. He can move 100X the speed of light, survive a supernova and punch through a planet”

    Marvel only reader!!! We have shown at least 2 scans of Superman traveling in space at least at 1,000 of times the speed of light. the actual feat was:

    From the Vega system to earth in 10 minutes

    that is 175,000,000 x speed of light

    Gladiator 10x speed of ligth LOL :D

    punch through a planet? been there done that
    What about shatering reality, with the SHOCKWAVE of his punches?

    or PULVERIZING, YES P-U-L-V-E-R-A-I-Z-I-N-G the shadow moon that was traveling at 7,614,000 km/h and weight 81 billion tons. Superman PULVERIZED
    AS IN DUST the whole moon.

    Gladiator is Superman 10x, lol :D

    FUUUUUNY

  13. #13 Alberto says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Superman can generate an infinite mass punch the same way Flash does, and is an infinite mass punch coming from SUPERMAN, not Flash. :D

  14. #14 Darryl says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    Will
    Dude are so Totally wrong, (lol), really not funny. In every crossover even DC admit the Hulk could hold his own against Superman and in one crossover the stated that Hulk would get to a point where Superman would not be able to handle him. SO your statement “SUPERMAN COULD FUCK HULKS SHIT UP HARDCORE IT DOESN’T MATTER HOW STRONG HE CAN GET.” Not true.

  15. #15 Corey says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    I’ll break it down simply:

    1. Silver Surfer
    2. Thor
    3. Hulk
    4. Sentry
    5. Captain Marvel
    6. Green Lantern
    7. Martian Manhunter
    8. Black Bolt
    9. Wonder Woman
    10. Superman

  16. #16 Darryl says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    ShadowHunter
    Hulk is capable of moving very fast when high enrage. What you said about Hulk don’t hold up because Hulk fought likes of Thor & Silver Surfer both are capable of move at light speed and have great strenght. Remember Shadowhunter Superman primary attack isn’t blitz with speed. Superman don’t used this ability very often a thing I belief Zeromage brought up on Thor vs Superman Blog comments. You overstate Superman speed advantage. It is there but probably won’t as big factor as try to make it. Even crossover they don’t mention it as advantage factor.

  17. Haha…Explain to me how Sentry isn’t number 1!!!!!

    Please I dare you.

    He is Marvel’s #1 heavy hitter. Thor stands no chance against him.

  18. I am OLD and WISE!!!!!!!!!!!! from the time of delta the great. Now listen to me no one knows what “the hell” The Sentries powers are. But a good question is why isnt “proffesor x” higher up?

    gidi out

  19. And for goods sake Thors a GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. #20 Alberto says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 12:06 am

    Anyone up for numbers on the shadow moon feat?

    an object mass of 81 billion tons traveling at 7,614,000 km/h

    F=MA

    Make the calculations and the result is the force of the object, not the force of Superman. Superman went higher than that in order to PULVERIZE the thing.

    That OBJECT gets, stopped in it’s tracks and PULVERIZED by Superman’s Infinite mass punch.

    I don’t care if you are a God or not, or if you are infinite strong in theory. A punch of that magnitude
    should put Superman in the 1st spot. If this does not convince Zero, nothing will.

    Zero, do the math

    81 billion tons multiplied by 7,614,000 = the force of the shadow moon.

    Superman not only stopped the shadow moon, HE PULVERIZED THE THING!!!

  21. @Alberto, so what that was one time supes went that fast, all that Kallark does is go 1000’s of times light speed, all the time, he is stronger than supes because thats why he was THOUGHT UP!!! they wanted someone like superman but better, so they made Gladiator. And besides I got that stuff off of wikipedia. so look it up, I don’t know anywhere to get scans nor do I collect comic books I read them from my friends collection, and neither of us have access to a scanner. and Darryl your just an idiot, shadowhunter and I and alberto have brought up like a hundred different ways for superman to kill hulk and you don’t even pay attention to the fact that we have actual facts and your just like, “In every crossover even DC admit the Hulk could hold his own against Superman and in one crossover the stated that Hulk would get to a point where Superman would not be able to handle him.”

    umm find where that came from and show us, cause if their not talking about prime, your dumb and need to be shot in the face.

  22. #23 Alberto says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    @Will

    This is a missunderstanding that people has about Superman. Superman lives in a crystal world, He holds back by instinct. That is why people think Supergirl is stronger. But they forget that Superman Holds back, is not that He can’t do it, is just that He holds back. When required, he travels at that speed. Galdiator on the other hand was raised to exploit his power. He goes all out. Superman does not.
    Superman’s feats , make Gladiator feats look like a baby Superman.

    Gladiator powers seems to depend on his confidence level, that is as easy as to make fun of his mohawk to start defeating him. Plus he lost against canon ball. canonball is a street level character.

    While Gladiator may seem powerful in Marvel, he is not as powerful as Superman, The Sentry or Captain Marvel

  23. But like I already said like 10 times before, Kallark can come in at 100 times light speed and just tap them, and the inertia will launch them to their doom, maybe not supes but it’ll still catch his ass off guard, and sentry can’t even fly close to as fast as Gladiator or Supes, and marvel is just an dumbass he could use his sensing power of whatever, and he wouldn’t be able to pick up on Kallark until he was already on him.

  24. #25 Alberto says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 1:39 am

    @Will

    Oh, I get what you are saying.

    Yes, that is a posibility, that Gladiator could catch Superman off guard.

    But I have not seen him doing what you are saying, not even when he fought against Thor. but he may be able to do it.

    There is also another problem, that Gladiator is a “clone” character. and can’t be included on the list.

    This is just to show how super speed is a problem for Thor

    http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1116/68035310hl6.jpg

    He did not even saw that one coming :D

  25. #27 Freeza says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 2:55 am

    What about Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet? It was only temporary but he single-handedly took on most of the Marvel Universe by himself.

  26. #28 ShadowHunter says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 4:44 am

    Will : You should stop using crossovers. These aren’t canon most of the time. There is only one if I good remember. If you REALLY think Gladiator could beat Superman, show us scans that beat Supes scans.

  27. #29 Darryl says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Alberto I don’t have the abilitie do a scan but did it happen in Title (Superman and Spiderman) crossover you can google see cover of book it was print in 1981 has Superman/spiderman/Dr. Doom & parasite on the cover. So Hulk was fight was silver age/(PC) superman. It did happen so that makes you the idiot. Please get you fact right!!
    Alberto, I don’t do hype!! I don’t understand why you have such a hard to admit highly enrage hulk has a good chance of beating superman. It’s seem you have this need to belief that superman can’t be defeated & that just simple no true.

    That no hype!
    You really should stop letting your bais blind you to facts.

  28. #30 ShadowHunter says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    Darryl : Nice! A kid using crossovers! Good job!

  29. #31 ShadowHunter says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Darryl : Your the idiot who think Hulk has infinite rage. That makes you the funny guy. Show me scans where Hulk prooved to be WAYYYY stronger than Superman. I can send you a BUNCH!

    Superman repairs a tears in the reality : http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2345/realityfixng9.jpg

    Superman and Captain Marvel lifting a book with infinite pages : http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/fcsb3d1p24fj5.jpg?t=1257902510

    Superman and Captain Marvel talking about the book with infinite pages they are? lifting. : http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/Untitled-5.gif?t=1257992239

    Superman can lift the book alone. Ultraman did it : http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/Untitled-9.gif?t=1258056339

    Superman? owning Thor! http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/SupermanandThorbrawlin3.jpg?t=1259559547 (Wanna use crossovers…)

    Superman speed again : http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/5899/supespeed6kt.jpg

    Superman heres GL (Kyle) about a million miles away from Earth in bed, and he gets there in seconds.
    http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1954/08222005054558pm3oy.jpg

    http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2785/08222005054722pm5jq.jpg

    Heres Superman actually escaping a double? black hole (which beats every feat ssj3/4 Goku or any DBZ/GT character has ever done), this proves his strength, speed, and durability.
    http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4198/untitled128qt3bk.jpg

    http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5858/untitled138wy8fy.jpg

    http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5207/untitled140kt3ew.jpg

    http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/938/untitled152oe8eq.jpg

    http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8946/untitled166ov4wo.jpg

    Superman turning himself? invisible with his speed : http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/553/supermaninvisible44zc.jpg

    Superman is fast, really fast. Dangerously fast :
    http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9101/0869a916yt.jpg

    http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/704/08222005052719pm2ys.jpg

    Superman surviving the collision of two planets! : http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/deathofthenewgods080260vb0.jpg?t=1259028847 (No other than APOKOLIPS AND NEW GENESIS. BOTH HOLLOW BUT WITH TREMOENDOUS AMMOUNT OF ENERGY INSIDE

    Superman destroying a sun eater that is twice the size of Krypton (Krypton is 3 times bigger than? earth) : http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/550/brainfreeze8za.jpg

    Superman heating up a planet with his heat vision : http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/supermanheatvisonhe5.jpg?t=1259029814

    Superman fighting General Zod under a red sun! :? http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/08302005032341pm7oo.jpg?t=1259027285

    Superman falling in a red sun that is surrounded by
    Kryptonite with Superboy Prime! : http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/Untitled-1.gif?t=1259027812

    http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/Untitled-3.gif?t=1259027980

    Superman can break throught Johns willpower : http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8239/jonsshieldfz0.jpg

    Superman can see the soul of people with his vision : http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/4593/soulvisionfd2.jpg

    Superman take out Cyborg Superman who has Kryptonite DNA! : http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2691/57270748hz8.jpg

    Superman learning? about magic with Zatanna : http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1685/zatcy5.jpg

    Superman uses his knowledge about magic to overcome a spell : http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/4305/usingzatna7.jpg

    Incredible feat here. Superman moving earth when Starbreaker (A being almost as strong as the Presence) is moving it in the opposite way. Hal Jordan isn’t moving it. He just made a construct so Superman could move the earth. : http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7204/movingtk1.jpg

    Superman and Wonder Woman slowing down The Spectre who is made of? Eternity : http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9238/jlaspectresoulwarwwliftspectre.jpg

    All these scans were already posted on this website on different debate. I just took them and posted them again since you needed them.

  30. Alberto, you forgot to show the end of that Thor/Gladiator comic:

    http://i15.tinypic.com/4dorm2p.png

  31. Here’s the panel right before the one I posted:
    http://i18.tinypic.com/2yya2yh.png

  32. (Notice, Thor said he was holding back before, because he thought Gladiator was brainwashed)

  33. Once again, I have to correct Alberto, or show how he left out critical information to make his point. I am getting tired of this.

  34. Here’s my thoughts:

    1. Thor
    He has been stated numerous times to be Marvel’s most powerful hero (Stan Lee even said he made Thor to be Marvel’s #1 heavy hitter). The Silver Surfer himself has stated the power cosmic is no match for the Odin Force. Also, we recently have heard Thor state that he’s been holding back for most of his career. The guy has too many different powers and too many ways to beat an opponent. From brute force, to magic, to energy blasts, to battle field removal. (Superman has no true BFR ability). Thor’s magic gives him a distinct edge over Superman as well.

    2. Silver Surfer
    If it wasn’t for Thor constantly beating this guy, he might be #1 on the list. He’s FAST, and he has so many different powers. He can basically do almost anything he wants.

    3. Superman
    It was a tough call to place Superman ahead of Sentry. But I think Superman is more mentally tough than Sentry, even though on paper, Sentry’s powers should give him a huge advantage over Superman. He’s behind Surfer because Surfer could just turn the sun’s radiation (the source of Superman’s powers) into Kryptonite radiation. And he would know about his weakness also because he does have that ability. (See his conversation with Gladiator).

    4. Sentry
    If he wasn’t such a mental case, he’d have a good case for being #2 or even #1 if Thor hadn’t beatn him too. (he also KILLED him in a What If). Its clear Marvel wants Thor ahead of Sentry.

    I’ll finish my list. Later. Gotta go.

  35. #37 Alberto says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    @Darryl

    I happen to own the comic you are talking about.

    I know exactly what you are talking about. But lets see this:

    The fight in crossover classics was not even a fight. Superman let Hulk to take his best shots at him. Superman did not even strike back and Superman was the one who end the fight. How does that look good for the Hulk???
    Now they have to create a plot and the superman of that era completely outclassed HULK in every department. PC superman was able to move all the planets of a galaxy with out effort, he was faster than Flash. There was no way, Hulk could have defeated Superman. the only way HULK could have defeated Superman was with PIS.
    Superman took the best HULK shots and he did not even moved!!!
    The only fight that was on the line it was if HULK could be able to move Superman, because back then Superman have the power of being unmovable if he wanted to. So that was the only fight going on the comic. That is waaaaaaaaaaaaay different of Superman ACTUALLY fighting against the HULK.

    HULK vs Superman in crossover classics looks like a Kid fighting against an Adult. it is that bad for HULK.

    http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/418/pc6sx5.jpg

    ANALYZE THE PAGE AND ANSWER ME THIS TWO QUESTIONS:

    Do you see Superman fighting back?
    What is Superman doing?

    Don’t tell me about bias blinding facts because it shows the opposite.

    You seem to forget also that in the same series Batman KO the HULK and that was absolute PIS!!!

    Superman can be defeated the same as any other character. But We are talking here about who is the most powerful and Hulk is no more powerful than Superman or Thor. I’m sure HULK is stronger than THOR, but I’m not sure if HULK is stronger than Superman, because of the infinite rage factor.

    I KNOW in theory HULK could be stronger, but I have never seen it on practice. There is only FEW feats of HULK that can be compared to Superman’s

    and if WWH is the ultimate HULK then I really doubt that He is stronger than Superman. WWH can destroy a planet, SO?
    MODERN SUPERMAN has been smashed between two planets and survived, those two planets were APOKOLIPS AND NEW GENESIS.
    Have you made the calculation on the shadow moon feat? Superman pulverized the thing.
    Superman can also shatter a planet with the SHOCKWAVES of his punches!!! He is not EVEN touching the planet.
    Superman is not undefeatable, but I’m sure, SUPERMAN is more powerful than HULK, BECAUSE EVIDENCE POINTS AT IT.
    There is a reason on why I don’t argue that FULL OF THOR is more powerful than Superman, you know why?
    Because I KNOW HE IS. If FULL OF THOR is as powerful as his dad, then He can destroy a galaxy, because ODIN was able to destroy galaxies.
    EVIDENCE POINTS THAT ODIN IS MORE POWERFUL THAN MODERN SUPERMAN.

    I never said you hyped the book, GREG PAK hyped his book by saying that his HULK was the ultimate most powerful HULK EVER. Not you, but GREG.

  36. #39 Alberto says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 4:29 pm

    #2

    http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvshulk1-5.jpg

    Hulk powers depend on his rage level.
    This takes him out of the list, He is not always at WWH level or Onslaught level.

  37. #40 Alberto says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    @Rick

    No, I did not forgot the rest of the comic

    I just post those to SHOW how effective is THOR against superspeed. I know he won and most THOR fans know He won.

    This is just to show how effective he is at handling speed.

    “Once again, I have to correct Alberto, or show how he left out critical information to make his point. I am getting tired of this”

    Delusional, completely delusional.

    Do you think I’m you? I never used COVERS to show my point!!!

    You use COVERS kid, COVERS!!! You can’t get dumber than that! :D

    Accusing me of leaving critical information out when YOU USE COVERS

    lol :D

    You are priceless :D

    God! I LOVE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR POST. ALL OF THEM FIRE BACK. :D

    You just make my job easier :D

  38. #41 ShadowHunter says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    Alberto : That’s called : Ricks Ownage. ;)

  39. #42 ShadowHunter says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Eat your chips!

  40. #43 Darryl says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    Ok, Alberto I will accept that you was talking about Greg Pak and not me when was calling somebody idiot. I glad hear you admit that Thor more powerful that superman. :)

  41. #44 Gilbert says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    No mention of Dr. Manhattan?

  42. what about en sab a nor

  43. what about en sab a nor the great

  44. “This is just to show how effective he is at handling speed.”

    Maybe you missed the part where Thor said he “WAS HOLDING BACK” earlier because he thought Gladiator was brain washed.

  45. what the hell does that have to do with en sa ba nor

  46. #49 Alberto says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 12:03 am

    @Darryl

    Ok, LET ME PUT THIS CLEAR DARRYL

    FULL Odin Force Thor is more powerful than MODERN Superman.

    CURRENT plot device Odin Force Thor getting humiliated by RULK is NOT more Powerful than Superman.

    The CURRENT Thor lost most of his Odin Force repairing Mjolnir. This current Thor is NOT more powerful than modern Superman.

  47. #50 Alberto says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 12:16 am

    @Rick

    Still that does not change the fact that He has problems with characters that have superspeed and superstrenght

    http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Thor/BloodOath309.jpg?t=1261181747

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