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Here it is folks, the biggest debate on the whole interweb. Never has there been a more well thought out argument for a completely non-existent thing. Which superhero could beat up which other superhero. Never has a group of people spent more time drawing graphs, doing calculations, making charts, and writing computer programs to prove that the hero they love is in fact the toughest. These people do more literature searches than a graduate student writing their dissertation on literature. One can only imagine what world problems could be solved if comic book nerds would instead focus this same energy on say; poverty, healthcare, the climate, pollution, the economy, childhood obesity, cancer, sudden infant death syndrome, racism, genetic disorders, violence against women, the melting ice caps, sending a man to mars, depression, solving Goldbach’s conjecture, creating a unified field theory, un-raveling the mystery of DNA, figuring out what happened before the big bang, resolving religious tensions in the Middle East, finding peace on Earth, making cleaner cars, sustainable energy, nuclear fission, getting rid of hippies, and the million other things that would make this world a better place to live in.
So in order to finish this debate once and for all we here at OW have finally finished THE list of the most powerful superheros. This is it folks. As every faithful reader knows that we here at OW are always right, we have proved it in the past. There can no longer be any debate. No more argument required. This list has taken us years to complete, and has threatened to destroy all that is OW. While making this list there was lots arguing, name calling, some shouting, a little bit of snuggling, more shouting, lots of your momma’s, but we finally came up with the definitive list of the most powerful superheroes of all time. We can’t be more clear on that last point, this is it. None of what you are about to read is opinion, it is fact. Next time one of your nerd buddies starts to argue you need only refer to this list, kindly pat him the head a give him one of the problems listed above to argue about. Here’s how we did it. First we excluded all super villains, this is heroes only, next we eliminated all exorbitantly overpowered cosmic beings (Phoenix, Odin, or the Highfather). And finally we ignored all heroes that would be considered ‘normal’ but have similar powers as those listed below. Then we plugged in all the facts and figures into the OW super computer and waited. Exactly 137 days later the answer was spit out. It then took us one year to figure out what that answer meant. Finally its over these are the most powerful superheroes. Fact.
10. The Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
Despite coming in at number 10, The Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) is one tough hombre. As a member of the Green Lantern Corps, he wields a power ring that can generate a variety of effects and energy constructs, sustained purely by the ring wearer’s strength of will. The greater the user’s willpower, the more effective the ring. The limits of the power ring’s abilities are never defined, but it has been referred to as “the most powerful weapon in the universe” on more than one occasion. It’s precious. Over the years, the ring has been shown capable of accomplishing almost anything within the imagination of the ring bearer. Often the rings are used to form solid-light constructs, the power and size of which are limited only by the ring-bearer’s willpower. And, if that wasn’t powerful enough, DC recently (in 2006) retconned the ring’s longtime lack of effect on yellow objects, stating that the ring-bearer need only feel fear and overcome it in order to affect yellow objects. With his protective bubbles and mean green energy bursts, the Green Lantern has fought with, and at varying times against, such heavyweights as Superman and Captain Marvel. But he’s still no match for number 9 on our list…9. Professor X
So how does someone whose Kryptonite is stairs make it onto the list of the ten most powerful superheroes of all time? Well, despite being wheelchair-bound, Professor Charles Xavier is one of the most powerful heroes in comic-dom. Born a mutant, Professor X is the world’s most powerful telepath. He is able to read or project his thoughts into minds within a radius of hundreds of miles. He can psionically manipulate the minds of others, warp perceptions to make himself seem invisible or project illusions, cause loss of particular memories, and induce pain or temporary mental and physical paralysis. Within close range, he can manipulate almost any number of minds for such simple feats. Taking it a step further, against one opponent he take full possession of their mind, although he must strictly be within that being’s physical presence. He can even project powerful mental bolts of psionic energy, enabling him to stun the mind of another being into unconsciousness and completely shut down minds and bodies, or cause death. But, while Professor X may possess the most powerful melon on Earth (and one of the most powerful in the galaxy), his delicate body would prove to be too much a liability against the other eight powerhouses on this list.8. Black Bolt
Our seventh most powerful superhero of all time is Black Bolt, the king of the offshoot of humanity known as the inhumans. Black Bolt has often been described as one of the most powerful superheroes in the Marvel universe by other heroes, and for good reason. Through electron gathering and manipulation, Black Bolt can increase any aspect of his physical nature to superhuman levels, including his strength, speed, stamina and durability. In times of great need, he can channel this power into a single devastating punch called “The Master Blow”. He can also harness the electrons for matter transformation; the controlled projection of energy as concussive blasts or quasi-solid particle/electron fiends, broadcasting jamming frequencies, and flight. But Black Bolt’s most salient offensive weapon is his cacophonous voice, as a hypersonic shout that can level an entire city, and his merest whisper has been shown capable of stunning the Hulk. It’s even been suggested that his voice is capable of destroying an entire planet.7. The Sentry
Empowered by an enigmatic professor’s secret formula, The Sentry absorbs solar radiation for strength and moves his molecules an instant ahead of the normal timeline. His superpowers include super strength, speed, stamina, and senses, along with the power to create energy fields and of course the power of unaided flight. He also possesses a number of mental powers, having displayed the ability to implant his memories into another person’s mind. To top all that off, he emits a form of radiation that calms down the Hulk, severely limiting the Jade giant’s rage-fueled powers. It’s been mentioned a number of times that he possesses the power of “a million exploding suns” and that he is “the most powerful human in the galaxy”. Unfortunately, his primary weakness appears to be his mental instability, as he is often referred to as an agoraphobic schizophrenic, and he is very susceptible to mental manipulation and inculcation.Pages: 1 2
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November 20th, 2009 at 3:59 am
Mark…..
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! I hope you’re kidding and not really this stupid.
Venom is not going to add anything. You really think the symbiote is going to be strong enough to make any kinda significant difference in strength? I know who Venom is, and he’s not even as powerful as Aquaman.
And you’re laughable saying I’m wrong. Martian Manhunter is, at best for your argument, a comparable telepath to Professor X. But he’s actually shown to be a more powerful telepath, as well as being a powerhouse in Superman’s class. Not to mention the other abilities he has far out-class anything Venom could dream of. His shape-shifting is far more powerful than Venom’s manipulation of the symbiote. His density manipulation is more powerful than Vision’s, and he also can pull-off the phasing the hand, thrust it into an opponent, and partially solidify it to cause intense pain. As well as telekinesis.
You’re quite an ignorant idiot to be treating Green Lantern like that. You are aware that they’ve created black holes, contained them, destroyed planets, shielded from destruction of planets, ect? Kyle Rayner caused a star to go supernova, then contained the explosion for a period of time. Green Lanterns can also manipulate space/time. Oh and Green Lantern would own the fuck out of Hulk. He could simply use constructs to beat the shit out of Hulk, throw Hulk into space, warp him into space, knock him out with a force blast, incinerate Hulk, draw the gamma radiation out of Hulk, and more. And where the fuck do you get that Venom would crush Green Lantern? Venom’s ONLY chance is a sneak-attack when a Lantern’s guard is down and not actively using his/her/it’s Power Ring. But there’s Green Lanterns who have superhuman strength greater than Venom without their Power Ring. Really, what the fuck is Venom going to do to a prepared Green Lantern? Venom’s camouflage is worthless, as Green Lanterns can use their Power Rings to see out-side the visible spectrum and see Venom’s infrared signature. Considering plenty of Green Lanterns can casually contain nuclear explosions, Venom ain’t gonna take them out with physical force against a prepared Green Lantern. But what can Green Lantern do to Venom? Produce powerful sonic force to shred the symbiote off, produce powerful heat to burn the symbiote off, nuke the Hell out of it, KO it with a force beam, beat the shit out of it either with an animated construct or a mech construct, contain Venom, throw Venom into space, ect. Venom’s ONLY chance is a sneak-attack on an unprepared Green Lantern. That has normal human durability, which isn’t the case with a few GLs. Professor X’s only chance is with telepathy, and guess what? Green Lanterns can defend against telepathic attack, as well as produce telepathic-like effects. Hector Hammond and The Shark were two very notable foes of Hal Jordan, and they’re quite powerful telepaths. And I love how you were incapable of comprehending one of the points I made. Superman’s will fueling a Green Lantern Power Ring>>>>>>>>>>Silver Surfer.
And are you actually arguing that Hulk is superior to the characters I’ve mentioned because Hulk had movies? You’re an idiot, plain and simple. You are so stupid, you should be banned on that alone. Doomsday would absolute destroy Hulk. Doomsday’s quite a bit above Hulk in strength and durability, has dynamic strength himself, a degree of super speed, comparable or greater healing factor compared to Hulk, and his adaptive evolution. And now that he’s been killed by like a couple dozen Kryptonians, when he comes back from the dead, he will be so far above Hulk he can blink and decapitate the green retarded goliath. Flash would destroy Hulk too. Flash can beat the shit out of Hulk and is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too fast for Hulk. Can take whatever lucky strikes Hulk would actually connect with. Can sap Hulk’s speed to make him inanimate, blow-up Hulk’s head, strand him in the Speed Force/past/out-side the time stream.
As to your claims of half your crew taking the characters I mentioned, I only named four.
Let’s see, a Doomsday/Flash/Green Lantern/Karate Kid/Damage/Maxima or Martian Manhunter combo would win. Owns your combo on strength, speed, durability, energy manipulation, and fighting skill.
November 20th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! Ok your not 12 right? anyway you are pointless Green lantern could be beat by Wonder Woman who also sell’s more comics then green lantern and is a bigger star than the K-mart shopper ring wielding clown. 1 hit from hulk and lanterns ring is smashed to trinket dust and lantern will be in a coma or dead point blank. Your ridiculous argument that venom adds nothing is so garbage I should not even give you a response but did anyone else notice the difference he made on spiderman. Did spiderman not whup his enemies he usually struggles with in seconds?? oh yes he did. now if spidermans powers are on steroids with Venom my mentioned crew would slap the skin and life out of your poor lantern and friends. As far as the hulks strength please give it a rest hulk is ever growing in strength and for you, since you haven’t learned that in first grade that means he has potential to rise up over any foe if he gets mad enough. And you can have him in green – grey – or red. Red meaning your dead – lol .. and hulks movies,tv shows, countless video games and beat down of all who dared, means just one thing ”don’t make him angry”. and please don’t forget Hulk can carry a comic book company by himself none of your pitiful mentions can. why? they stink, no other explanation needed. My combined crew, yours can’t touch and you can spew and shout till your blue in the face .. you haven’t proven and shown how my master piece could be dismantled. At best you could hope lanterns ring could stay charged long enough to keep my crew from becoming bored to death. Thanos not even on Venoms extra added Juice is more then a match for your whole crew. Hulk in either form would also be too much for them. Superman also. Venom is a sneak attack fighter and that’s what he does best. PX you underestimate but you are that kind of person who does not deal in truth. Just vulgar make believe and sloppy nonsense. You want to challenge my crew step up kid. Oh yeah!! please don’t mention trinket man in the same breath as surfer, wonder woman would be better. Thanks
November 20th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Green Lantern has fought with, and at varying times against, such heavyweights as Superman and Captain Marvel. But he’s still no match for number 9 on our list…
9. Professor X and we can add wonder women and papa smurf, + buzz light year. To Infinity and beyond. lol
November 20th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
1 other thing you seem to have forgotten my crew when you even talk about fighting them, are combined and all their abilities are boosted whether you want to give Venom the credit for it or not. Each 1 of them are amazing alone with venom they are better. Even pitiful Lantern would be made better by him. If you can’t see or understand that having your powers amplified makes you that much better – you wont be able to get it. but I think? your smart enough to get it. Now 1 of them getting the boost is nice. but with all their abilities combined and boosted, maybe you can hear me now, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW??? LOL
November 20th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Thanos remade the universe as if Ankhenaten never appeared, although Thanos remained omnipotent. A cabal of cosmic beings of power, such as Eternity and the Living Tribunal prompted an assembly of nearly every super-being, god, and cosmic entity (such as Galactus and the Celestials) help take Thanos down. All this power was needed just to take Thanos down – what chance would any of your crew have in stopping this kind of power boosted by the combination of the others???? merged with them you couldn’t even figure out how you should proceed with an attack on my crew.
November 20th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
In Hulk #12 red hulk states to the Silver Surfer that his strength comes from the ability to absorb energies, especially gamma because that’s the easiest for him, but he then absorbed Silver Surfers power Cosmic energy and wields it easily. and beat the merciless heck out of Thor knocking him to the moon. Reminds me of the honeymooners except Thor is Alice. lol
November 20th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Oh boy Mark, you are so damn entertaining!! I love your lack of any real examples to back-up your claims 90% of the time, the irony you produce by calling ME the kid, your incompetence in comprehending things like “scale” and “power level” and your grasp of the English language equivalent to a retard who speaks it as a third language. But what’s up with quoting the very beginning of what I say and nothing else, in every damn comment? It makes little sense. And since you’re entertaining me so, I’ll give you a little bit of an English lesson, that you obviously so desperately need.
No, I am not 12. And it’s “you’re” not “your.” Or you could have gone, “Your age is not 12, right?” That would’ve worked. But you just wholly fucked it up.
Now onto your pathetic attempts to refute my arguments. You don’t know a fucking thing about Green Lantern, do you? I love how you completely ignore all the examples I give that you can’t do a thing about to say I’m wrong. The Kyle Rayner Green Lantern alone has created, then contained, a supernova. He’s contained or shielded from nuclear explosions on at least four occasions. He contained the forces used to crack the armor of Imperiex Prime. And that took a combined effort of Superman enhanced massively by absorbing Strange Visitor/Kismet, Darkseid’s Omega Beams, and 30 hydrogen bombs enhanced by B13 technology. He’s lifted a city. Knocked-out a white Martian(Superman-class powerhouses) with ONE strike. Helped to move the Moon, a mass in the hundreds of billions of tons, at least, that weighed even more due to the fact that tons of space ships, stations, satalites and other space debris were weighing the Moon down and pulling it out of orbit. He helped tow the Moon through Earth’s atmosphere and gravity so fast that the air around the Moon caught fire, THEN towed it back to it’s proper orbit in seconds, indicating towing a mass billions+ tons in weight at about 50% of the speed of light. He created a legion of demon constructs to fight an army of Angels that were each more powerful than Spider-Man or Venom. It was stated Green Lantern’s Power Ring can produce enough heat to ignite a star, 15 million degrees Kelvin. This is about 27,000,000°F or nearly 15,000,000°C. hm Venom’s vulnerable to heat and fire…..wonder what that’ll do to him? Kyle has also created wormholes, stated to be capable of producing black holes, can split atoms to cause nuclear explosions, and contain black holes. So, what exactly is Venom going to do to him? And this is just what I know about the Kyle Rayner Green Lantern, and my I know comparatively little about Kyle.
And do you realize how utterly fucking stupid you are to be downplaying Green Lantern because your pathetic excuse for a pathetic excuse for a somewhat working brain thinks it developed a clever insult? The whole K-Mart thing isn’t clever or witty, it’s just stupid. Like you are. How about instead of proving to us all how much of a fucking moron you are, you actually give some examples? You’ve given nothing to indicate one strike form the Hulk would take care of Green Lantern. And even if you gave examples, it would be dependent on that particular instance. Hulk’s strength varies a LOT, even in the incarnation.
But I have a ridiculous argument about Venom adds nothing to the mix? OK, I see your one actual argument in your entire proclamation of your idiocy. Spider-Man got a boost from it. Are you aware that Spider-Man operates on a completely different, and lower, power level than Superman, Doomsday, Darkseid, Thanos, Silver Surfer, ect? Spider-Man’s generally in the 10-15 ton range of strength. Superman can casually lift a nuclear submarine over his head with one hand, and these can weigh as much as 26,000 tons surfaced. Even if Superman were straining, that means he can lift at least 52,000 tons. But he was lifting that sub casually with one hand. That’s not even an impressive feat for Superman, for him it’d be your or me holding a piece of paper. Superman’s literally lifted infinite weight before, he’s shattered the boundaries of space and time with his punches, he HELD A MINIATURE BLACK HOLE IN HIS HAND AND KEPT IT FROM EXPANDING. What the Hell is the Venom costume going to contribute to Superman alone? Nothing. Not even it’s camouflage, as Superman can vibrate his body at super speed and become invisible. With flight and “freezes/hurricane/vacuum breath” that eliminates any usefulness that Venom’s symbiote-based tendrils and webbing could provide. And with Superman’s level of senses, that makes Venom’s 360° sense obsolete. I had alluded to this earlier, I just didn’t go into detail. I, mistakenly, assumed you had a slight amount of sense to understand that Superman and company are so far above Venom, that the symbiote will do nothing useful. I sincerely apologize that I assumed you were far, far smarter than you really are, and didn’t realize you were even a bigger idiot than I first thought.
As to your further Hulk argument…..where the FUCK does Hulk being more marketable make it a valid argument that you’re right and I’m wrong? Spider-Man’s a shit-load more marketable, popular and successful than Celestials, but do you think Spider-Man could take a Celestial? Captain America’s earned Marvel a whole lot more money than Sersi or Black Bolt and is by far more recognizable, but do you think Captain Marvel’s going to win a straight-up fight against one of them? Wolverine’s much more well known and beloved than poor J’onn J’onzz, the Manhunter From Mars, but do you think Wolverine has a chance against Martian Manhunter? God you are so fucking stupid I hope you get testicular cancer or some horrid accident that forces castration, because people as stupid as you should not be allowed to even breath, eat or drink, taking up valuable resources that more relevant people like $2 HIV-positive she-male whores could get. So if you don’t even deserve to take-up valuable resources like food, water and air from a $2 HIV-positive tranny hooker, then you should not be allowed to reproduce and further ruin Mankind by spreading your stupidity.
As to Hulk’s ever growing strength, you fail to realize it really depends on the circumstances and the incarnation of Hulk. For example, you brought-up the gray Hulk. Mister Fixit was quite obviously at a serious strength disadvantage compared to Savage Hulk. Rarely did Fixit gain a strength level significantly higher than his base level strength. Savage Hulk was all over the place, and is the incarnation with the majority of Hulk’s most impressive strength feats. Professor Hulk(AKA Merged Hulk) didn’t have the capability to get as strong as Savage Hulk, but had a much higher base strength before getting angry. And like I said before, circumstances are quite important. Hulk’s not always getting stronger, there’s been times where he’s been pissed-off but still didn’t seem to get any noticeable increase.
Now since you’re incapable of understanding this, I’ll try to explain it to you in terms that make sense to one as inanely dense as you. Doomsday is so far above Hulk, that it’s like a girly child molester being put in a cell with five inmate power-lifting Martial Artists who all have kids of their own. Meaning Hulk gets the absolute shit beaten out of him by Doomsday. I was going to use the word “pedophile” instead of the term “child molester” but I think that would be too fancy a word for you to know. Anyways, Doomsday starts-off MUCH stronger at base than Hulk does. So Hulk has this huge gap to close. But guess what? Doomsday also has his strength increase as the fight goes on!! So as Hulk’s trying to catch-up, Doomsday is also moving forward with increasing strength. Hulk’s not the only character with dynamic strength as a power. Doomsday is also a lot more durable than Hulk, is much much faster as Doomsday has at least Mach One level speed, and has that Adaptive Evolution power going for him. Meaning Doomsday can evolve and develop new powers and abilities to deal with threats. Doomsday developed energy-based powers to kill an energy being and became immune to chronol stasis. That’s where time was manipulated around Doomsday to freeze, so time for Doomsday literally stopped. He overcame this and became immune to it. Doomsday could develop even faster dynamic strength, so his strength increases like 5 times faster than Hulk’s, he could mess with Hulk’s gamma radiation to hurt, depower or out-right kill Hulk, or he could produce pheromones to emit to calm the Hulk down. Of course, Doomsday could just beat Hulk nearly to death before Hulk’s strength increases to any noticeable levels.
And I love how you claim I haven’t proven your “masterpiece” could be “dismantled” yet only gave one legitimate argument for Venom. Which utterly failed due to your lack of understanding that Venom is just so far below so many of these characters that it’s ridiculous that you thought he’d contribute. You are quite a stupid little boy. I mean you’re actually trying to argue Hulk’s marketability and success as a license and franchise actually backs-up your claims and proves me wrong on who’s more powerful.
Now you’re claiming that my team combined would lose to Thanos, Hulk or Superman? We’re talking about a combination character, right? Considering Doomsday is so powerful that most of the times after DEATH OF SUPERMAN, Superman needed a plan to beat Doomsday and could not out-right defeat Doomsday, I’d have to say not. Doomsday’s raw strength and durability combined with Flash’s speed and Speed Force tricks, Green Lantern’s energy manipulation, Karate Kid’s fighting skills, Maxima or Martian Manhunter’s psionic abilities and Damage’s power increasing? That’s going to own Superman. Damage absorbs various forms of energy and it increases his abilities. Maxima and Martian Manhunter are both insanely powerful telepaths, so either one will be a good choice. I’m going to use the Silver Age Pre-CRISIS Karate Kid. His skills in hand-to-hand combat were so insane, that even though he was within human limits of strength, he could still hurt Pre-CRISIS Superboy or Pre-CRISIS Mon-El. So even though he had normal human strength, his skill allowed him to HURT Pre-CRISIS Kryptonians and Daxamites. Mon-El was shown to be equal in strength to Superboy in the Silver Age, and Silver Age Superboy was so ridiculously strong that he could literally juggle planets and tow a solar system. So if a NORMAL HUMAN can hurt someone as strong and durable as the Pre-CRISIS incarnations of Superboy or Mon-El simply by amazing fighting skills, what do you think someone as strong as Doomsday is going to do to Superman, Thanos, or Hulk? Not to mention he’s also got Maxima or Martian Manhunter’s strength added to it, and both of them are strong enough to hold their own in a brawl with Superman. And that’s not even factoring in Flash’s Speed Force tricks(can literally make someone a statue by taking away all their kinetic energy/movement, cause explosions with phasing, trap someone in the Speed Force) or all the stuff I showed for Green Lantern. No way is Superman by himself going to be too much for a combination like this. And I’m a huge Superman fan!!
Venom is not going to do shit to a single one of the characters I mentioned, with the one exception of Green Lantern, but that’s ONLY if Venom gets the drop on a GL. And that’s assuming it’s NOT one of the Green Lanterns who have superhuman strength and durability independent of the Power Ring. But guess what? In this combo, the character has as much of a strength advantage over Venom as Superman does over Aunt May. Even if Venom does get the drop on Flash, which is quite unlikely, he’ll only get one shot to take Flash out of the fight. But Venom’s not powerful enough to take-out Flash with five attacks, let alone one. But this combo has it so it has the durability of multiple Superman-class powerhouses combined. Either Hulk or Thanos will get absolutely wrecked by this combo.
And you say I underestimate Professor X but I don’t deal with the truth? Kid, go learn more English. And learn more about Maxima or Martian Manhunter. Both have shown to be more powerful telepaths than Professor X, in addition to having various other abilities. Martian Manhunter has many feats that Professor X failed to do comparable things to when attempted. Maxima was able to match, and defeat, Brainiac, a Professor X-class telepath, when Brainiac was massively enhanced by having Warworld boost his psionic powers. Maxima has also shown to have strength great enough that she can give Superman a fight, with durability to match, a handful of energy-based powers, superhuman speed comparable to Spider-Man, and is quite a powerful telekinetic. She was drained of a good portion of her powers, yet was still capable of using her telekinesis to move continental plates on a planet much larger than Earth. Martian Manhunter has super speed at the least in the supersonic range(though he’s shown near-lightspeed on multiple occasions), strength and durability close to Superman’s, can manipulate his density to increase his strength and durability or phase to avoid attacks or use it offensively like Vision does, and is quite possibly the most powerful shape-shifting in comics. We’re talking he can enter your bloodstream with his shape-shifting powers. So, at the minimum, either Maxima or Martian Manhunter are comparable to Professor X in telepathy, but there’s multiple instances pointing towards them actually being more powerful telepaths, and have a whole lot more to offer than Venom, Professor X and Hulk combined.
I already gave examples to show how powerful one Green Lantern is, and pointed-out that my knowledge of Kyle Rayner is relatively limited compared to that of other characters. So that over-turns your stupid comment that the best I could hope for is the Power Ring lasts long enough to keep them from being bored to death.
And just because Old-Wizard said that Green Lantern wouldn’t be a match for Professor X does not make it true. Zeromage himself has told me that Professor X is very likely to be removed from the list in a revision. I’ve given the numerous examples of what a Green Lantern can do. They can also defend themselves from telepaths. All Professor X can do is, well, sit there and cry when he realizes his telepathy ain’t workin’.
And I understand your whole argument about Venom giving them a boost. The problem with your argument is, you’re stupid enough to actually think it’ll work. Each character you named is physically so above Venom, that he won’t give them a boost. It’s too much for the symbiote. Professor X is the only one it would boost, and the symbiote will not boost his telepathy.
As to Green Lantern being boosted by the Venom symbiote, well, physically he would be. But it wouldn’t make a damn bit of difference in how effective it actually makes Green Lantern. Whooo Green Lantern will be in the 10+ ton range of strength without the Power Ring, while with the Power Ring he can lift a FUCKING CITY!! So, you clone Kyle Rayner, and give the clone the Venom symbiote, and he technically will be more powerful than the original Kyle Rayner. Will it make an actual difference in a fight? Not really. For example, if we were to take Superman before his power-up and was a physical match for the Cyborg-Superman, and you give them both Power Rings, Cyborg-Superman is more powerful. Why you ask? Well it’s because his cyborg half can morph and create weapons. Does this make a difference in being more effective than a physically equal Superman with a Power Ring? Nope. Why you ask? Well this is due to the fact that the Power Ring can MAKE ANY FUCKING WEAPON YOU WANT!! So since a Green Lantern(or any other Lantern Corps) Power Ring can lift cities, destroy planets, create planets, and casually contain nuclear detonations, this will make it so, in terms of effectiveness, the Power Ring’s wielder being host to the Venom symbiote won’t make a difference if he/she/it has the symbiote or not. Can you understand me now, or did I fail to use simple enough words for you to?
And Thanos remaking the universe with a temporary power-up means nothing. Thanos gets stuff to do shit like that fairly often. It never lasts.
And love how you failed to mention that Rulk essentially beat Thor by sucker-punching Thor. And then Thor came back and beat the shit out of Rulk, nearly killing Rulk. Technically Thor didn’t win the fight, since A-Bomb tackled Thor and convince him to let Hulk get his pride back. Still though, unless Rulk pulled a plot-device miracle out of his ass, he would’ve lost that fight if it continued.
Check and mate, dumbass.
November 20th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
So Mark, in honor of Mark Wahlberg, someone you’re disgracing, I shall refer to what’s going on in his style.
So Mark, you’re a retard. What’s up with that? I’m owning your ass here. Say “hi” to ya mutha for me.
That last part though should be discounted though, since I’m banging her I can tell her “hi” myself.
November 20th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Mark with all due respect:
VENOM? What the hell are you talking about?, last time I check, you can defeat a symbiote with a bell!
Well actually ultra-sonics.
Flash, Superman, GL, Hulk and Silver Surfer can create ultra-sonics
Venom is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of his league here, as well as spiderman, unless spiderman has the cosmic power of acts of vengance, which he clearly does not have now.
When you are talking about any of the guys in this list, is a planetary level treath (at least) created by a single being, not by a horde of symbiotes, but by a single being, in this case anyone on the list.
Or are you going to tell me, that a single Venom can destroy the world?
I don’t think so.
Now on the Thanos matter when he fought against the cosmic beings (the living tribunal did not fought against Thanos) Did you notice a glove he was wearing on his right hand with some gems on it?
It is call the Infinity Gauntlet, that is the reason why Thanos was able to fight all those cosmic beings. BECAUSE OF THE GAUNTLET!!!
Thanos is powerful, but not as powerful as Darkseid
Darkseid is a COSMIC ENTITY of the spatial realm in the DC universe, Thanos is not.
I know We all have our favorites, but Venom and spiderman are outclassed here.
November 20th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Actually Alberto, Mark actually believes that the Venom symbiote will boost the powers of the characters he named. I believe his intent was actually an amalgamation, combining all the characters. So Thanos, Darkseid, Hulk, Superman, Professor X and Silver Surfer boosted by the Venom symbiote.
Too bad for him he’s too stupid to realize how the Venom symbiote isn’t powerful enough to actually give any of those characters mentioned, save Professor X, a boost, nor does it increase their powers beyond strength, speed, durability and agility. I’m not sure if he thinks that, but he sure gave me that impression.
And even if it were to somehow add extra strength to any of the characters other than Professor X, it wouldn’t matter. The symbiote has both been described as increasing the actual strength of the host, as well as adding Spider-Man’s strength to Eddy Brock’s near peak-human strength. If it increases the actual strength, it’ll die of strain trying to boost Superman, let alone a combination of all those characters named. If it adds Spider-Man’s strength in addition, well…..just on Superman alone, if he can casually lift and throw ships weighing over 100,000 tons and this isn’t even an impressive feat for Superman, then an extra 10 tons is meaningless.
November 20th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Delta :
You also forgot that Maxima is waaaaaaaaaaaaay hotter than Professor X.
November 20th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Yes, she is, but we can’t tell Mark that. He’ll pitch a hissy fit and scream about how he gets a hard-on looking at Charles and say that’s why he wins.
November 20th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
For once I’ll give it to you on making a couple good points and maybe making me question adding venom to the team. I’ll fix that easy I’ll take away Venom and add Galactus In 1 swift blow kiss your team combined good bye. As for any of your petty little insults, I’ll chalk it up to another brave cpu bad ass trying to talk tough online. Though I know you wouldn’t have such a mouth in person.
November 20th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Mark…..
I’ve BEEN making far better points than you. You also know little about Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Doomsday or Maxima. And you actually tried to make the argument that Hulk wins because he’s more marketable than the characters I named.
And you replace Galactus, then I take out Damage and mix in Emperor Joker. Of course you’re doomed, as Emperor Joker would beat your entire combination without even adding other characters.
As to the petty insults, I’m pointing-out reality. Even ignoring the fact that English obviously is not your first language, you are quite stupid. And you can tell me all you want that you think I’m just some “CPU badass” if it makes you feel better. For you to claim that and make the false assumption that I wouldn’t have “such a mouth” to your face shows you’re a whiny little bitch who’s essentially doing the same thing you’re accusing me of doing. Tell yourself all you want that I wouldn’t say this to your face, doesn’t change the fact that I’ve been tearing apart your arguments.
Oh, and still think that Hulk being more marketable than Martian Manhunter or Maxima means he’ll win? I guess then that means that Wolverine beats the Living Tribunal.
November 20th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Technically Thor didn’t win the fight, since A-Bomb tackled Thor and convince him to let Hulk get his pride back. Green and red hulk has kicked his butt two many times to count. and if that red hulk suckered Thor and that is the only reason he jacked him. What would your excuse be for all the major butt kicking the hulk put on him before in the straight up battles?? You have none, he just got his butt beat by a pissed off hulk. as I told you before he can grow stronger than any 1 he fights. Red hulk can also suck up their energy to add to his already Incredible power. So you can try and hate on the hulk all day, it wont phase him or me a bit. You also tried to imply that I was saying his success was what made him better then your guys. Either you miss understood or your just a liar. anyway, that was just to show you his ‘’success” over your pitiful renderings. Every superhero can be taken down by the Imagination of the writers but my two points are simple. That has not really been the case with the hulk over most of his fights. and that my combined team couldn’t be touched. You have only showed me, it was a mistake to put venom, who is a favorite in this group. but as I said that problem was easily fixed.
November 20th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
No Mark, retards like you have to be inbred…..wait a minute, what was the point again? Oh yes, your stupidity was rubbing off on me and I started-out an unrelated comment. Anyways…..
Doesn’t matter if Thor technically didn’t win the fight with Rulk, he would have. End of story.
I’m laughing even more at you by your claims that Hulk’s beaten Thor all these times. Despite the belief of retards like you, Thor’s the won who’s beaten Hulk the majority of times. Most of their fights don’t have a conclusive end, but out of those that do, Thor’s beaten Hulk four times, Hulk’s only beaten Thor twice. So again, I laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh at you.
And Hulk’s even more inconsistent than a DBZ character, so his increasing strength alone proves nothing. Oh, and Rulk’s energy absorption will do what to Thor? Thor doesn’t have any type of energy that Rulk could absorb. And just because you’re stroking your Hulk hard-on with green colored KY and think you’re actually right, doesn’t change the fact that Hulk is one of the most overrated characters in comics.
Love how you ignore how I proved that Doomsday>>>>>>>>>>>>Hulk. Doomsday is so superior to Hulk it’s a joke you think other-wise. Of course, you ARE a joke. So what else should I expect?
So I’m a liar because you’re an idiot that made this HUGE DEAL out of Hulk having had a couple movies, an old TV show with a some related Made-For-TV movies, a couple cartoons, and a few video games? Your point was even more retarded than you are. And you make Mind-Less Hulk look like Stephen Hawkings.
And your team can get the fucking shit ass-raped out of them by mine. Oh and love how you replace Venom, who’s barely above Street-Level, with Galactus, a Cosmic/Abstract Entity. But Emperor Joker alone beats your amalgam, let alone if I include the other characters.
Oh, and are you going to admit you’re blatantly ignoring my points about Doomsday being more powerful than Hulk, you being wrong about Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter and Maxima being more powerful than Professor X, or that they have a lot more to offer than Professor X?
November 20th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
You are only capable of lies, and yes, you wouldn’t say a word about anyone in person or you know you would be looking for yah mamma to bail your tail out of what your mouth got you into. but if you say you would too talk this way in person im always open to teach you a lesson if your dad wasn’t able to do it for you. Anytime at all, let me know. Just bring our audience to witness this story you wont be able to lie about. Now!! your dismissed kid.
November 20th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
OK Mark, I’m in California. You actually have the balls to come out here and get taught the lesson your idiocy actually thinks you’ll teach me, come right ahead.
And love how you just pitch a hissy fit like a little bitch and ignore all the refuting I’ve done of your arguments.
Oh and dip-shit moronic retard, quit saying I’m only capable of lies. Learn how to fucking use “lie” in the correct context. Or is it all you people from wherever you’re from think any time someone could be wrong that they’re lying? Of course you’re the one who’s wrong.
November 20th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
I’m in CT I will pay for your ticket any time you like right now is good for me. but what am I thinking you get up from the cpu to meet a real man?? not gonna happen. Stay safe in your home where you can talk crap to kids and think your a man. Did I say your home? oh my fault, you stay with your momma. Well if your a man I guess it’s on and I will see you soon other then that I don’t argue with little kids -. I’ll leave that to you, big man. I’ll leave that invitation open,not that I’ll be seeing you, but just keep on telling your lies and pretending to be tuff someone may believe you, one day. As for the other so called points you think you were making, they don’t mean jack. and since your not capable of telling the truth about it, no point in anyone trying to have 1 meaningful conversation with you. To anyone else, who would try and refute this guys lies, don’t bother that’s all he knows.
November 20th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
lmao You’re really fucking stupid. I have nothing to prove, you’re the one who started this shit in the first place, I retaliate, and when you can’t take it, you start claiming I’m only acting tough online. Just so you can make yourself feel better. I simply insulted back at you, not my fault you couldn’t handle it. You’re the one who desperately wants to convince yourself you’re a man, so you start with that iTough bullshit insecure idiots start spouting, and then make claims I live with my mom. You want to “teach” a lesson, you can fly here. You’re the bitch who wants to prove something, and then you’ll start telling yourself I’m just hiding behind the computer, because you’re too afraid to come over here.
Then you can’t refute my points and claim I’m lying. Where did I lie? I gave examples to back-up what I say. You gave ONE example with piss-poor reasoning to come to your conclusion in the first place, on Venom. Everything else you’ve said has been unsubstantiated opinion. At least my opinion has examples cited to make my argument.
Again, wondering where I lied. Or am I just a liar because you don’t like the points I’ve made? Go ahead, I dare you to point-out one thing where I allegedly lied and prove I lied. Or are you going to hide behind the computer for that too, and just say I lied?
November 20th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Hulk/Loki arrives at the gates of Asgard and attacks the Warriors Three and other Asgardians. Thor comes to the gates and is attacked by Hulk/Loki. Thor does not know that Loki is controlling it and tries to communicate with Banner which results in Loki actually talking through the Hulk.
After a prolonged battle, Hulk/Loki attempts to lift Thor’s hammer, Mjolnir. Amora warns Loki that he can not lift it and has to stop before he is no longer in control of the Hulk. Loki, of course, does not listen and continues to lift the hammer via the Hulk. Mjolnir flies to Thor and he uses his powers to separate Loki from the Hulk. It works, but now the Hulk is pure rage incarnate and he nearly kills Thor.
November 20th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
LMAO Are you using HULK VS? You’re even more of an idiot than I thought. You’re looking even worse than when you didn’t back-up your claims.
November 20th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Hulk wins that’s all that matters – you wanted facts, you have it. If your still not convinced I can send you a copy of the fight on dvd, with pop corn. lol Thor also tried to stop hulk in the first marvel dvd and got destroyed there too. Whats my point? 1 you wanted me to prove hulk won, he did. 2 red hulk can drain him on top of just serve the beat down, green hulk gave him. 3rd point, just as I told you from the beginning the writers can pretty much make whatever they want happen. and you can hope I never get that Job, my first move would be to combine hulk, and Galactus with red hulk and PX. Say what you like, The Hulk would be off the chains. And with me writing the action? lol
November 20th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O617ZHcazwA&feature=related Check this video footage out
November 20th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Wow Mark, your stupidity amazes me.
HULK VS does not count. It’s not in continuity. It doesn’t matter what the fuck you say, it doesn’t count.
In the actual COMICS, which are what matter, not the opinions of some idiot alien, Thor’s beaten Hulk two times for every time Hulk’s beaten Thor. And what the fuck are you talking about? You proved nothing about Rulk, Thor doesn’t have conventional energy for Rulk to drain you retard.
And you can’t even write comments in competent English and have an IQ lower than frozen yogurt. They would never give you a writing job, not to mention that’s one of the absolute worst ideas I’ve ever heard of for an actual comic. Fine to think-up for special VS debates, but as an actual storyline/concept? A below-average porn plot is better.
Oh and AVENGERS #3, HULK ANNUAL 2001, JOURNEY INTO MYSTERY #112 and THOR #489. These are times where Thor has had conclusive wins. Hulk has only had conclusive wins in HULK ANNUAL 2001. And like I said before, the comics are what counts. Not cartoons.
So shut the fuck up about the cartoon, and use actual examples from the comics. Other-wise, you’re proving to be the idiot I’ve been pointing-out. And you’re shaming whatever country you come from originally.
November 20th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Strike a nerve ? lol say what you like, hulk fans check this video out. seeing is believing – not words, just proof – check this 1 out hulk fans and laugh at thors face at the end of this smashing. lol If anyone could show me some real proof other than a lot of hot air, I’d take a look, till then enjoy hulk fans. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0yk_Na0ZJM
November 20th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Here’s hulk just doing his thing, hulk fans. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcgv9IzRV9M&NR=1
November 20th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Hulk fans you decide what counts, don’t let anyone try to bully you into believing that seeing is not believing in this matter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWmHEF_PT8E
November 20th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
http://media.photobucket.com/image/hulk%20vs%20thor/virgil_CRO/hulk6b.jpg
November 20th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
OK, Delta, where not going to give in on our positions. So we can agree to disagree. You don’t want to give Hulk his due, cool .. you don’t have too. I, on the other hand can at least admit most of the time, the writers leave us without a clear cut winner. That being said, The Hulk can battle with Thor and hold his own, though the hulk is not considered a god. also, I would not have paid for your ticket to come here either. I have no real problem with you besides your mouth, most of the time. But it’s cool too. I also, didn’t mean you were a liar, I just didn’t think you were giving the hulk or my team honest thought, just kinda, dismissing them as if they have no skill or power. So this ends, this topic at hand for me.
November 20th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Mark, how did you get you struck a nerve because I know what I’m talking about and you don’t?
No matter how much you make a deal out of it, the HULK VS cartoon does not count. Cartoons aren’t in continuity of the comics, and for you to not know this, and argue against this, shows a massive level of both stupidity and ignorance. And that’s not even being throwing-out insults, it’s pointing-out facts. If you argue that HULK VS counts, you prove you do not know much about comics.
This isn’t about giving Hulk his due credit. Hulk’s incredibly overrated. And like I said before, HULK VS does not count.
November 20th, 2009 at 12:33 am
Mark:
Cartoon continuity DOES NOT COUNT on mainstream comic book.
I was actually really mad that the Hulk VS did not show a great battle between Hulk and Thor.
I think the battle between Hulk and Wolwerine was better made.
I have My ultimate AMALGAM TEAM
I DARE ANYONE TO DEFEAT THIS AMALGAM TEAM!
THE PRESENSE/THE-ONE-ABOVE-ALL.
JOHN BYRNE CANNOT ENTER THIS BATTLE
November 20th, 2009 at 12:40 am
For hulk fans – this is a cool hulk site .. check it out if you like. http://www.incredible-hulk-library.com/superhero-library/incredible-hulk/incredible-hulk-great-battles-image-gallery.aspx
November 20th, 2009 at 12:57 am
Mark:
Do you have by any chance the comic book of the defenders vol 3. Where hulk allegedly lifth a black hole.
Does anyone has this comic?
November 20th, 2009 at 4:16 am
I keep checking and checking the defenders vol 3 summaries, all of them do not specify that hulk is lifting a black hole, all of the say “maelstorm” ALL.
None says black hole. Now I have to look for a comic book from the same where it actually says black hole. That way I will debunk this theory of Hulk being able to withstand the gravitational pull of a black hole.
This are the summary links
The actual comic book is featured in a reprint in black and white ESSENTIAL DEFENDERS VOL.1
http://www.incredible-hulk-library.com/superhero-library/incredible-hulk/incredible-hulk-comic-details.aspx?id=D1&issue=3
http://www.leaderslair.com/defenders/defenders003.html
November 20th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
I believe if the Hulk had done that, I would have been the first to tell you. lol And it would probably be on this list .. http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/strengthfeats.html
November 20th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Love how they leave-out the fact that the nuclear reactor Hulk threw Gladiator into just so happened to have the exact wavelength of radiation that weakens Gladiator. I guess if an Artillery crew were given nuclear shells and it so happened to produce the wavelength that weakens Gladiator, we’d start saying that Gladiator isn’t even equal to one Artillery crew.
Oh, and Hulk did not hold-up 150 billion tons. The entire mountain RANGE weighed 150 billion tons. Hulk didn’t even hold-up an entire mountain, just enough of the mountain to keep him and the others from being crushed. And Hulk admitted he was only able to lift that much due to leverage. I think Hulk also had help from Iron Man at first, too. Love how they don’t mention all those important factors and claim a calm Hulk can lift 150 billion tons.
November 20th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
I can’t find any mentioning of a black hole, this is the best I found. .. Unlimited Strength
All the incarnations of the Hulk, except for the Grey Hulk, can lift approximately 100 tons when calm. The Grey Hulk starts off at approximately 75 tons. As the familiar old addage goes, “the Madder the Hulk gets, the Stronger he gets.” During times of high stress or anger, an increase in adrenaline causes the Hulk’s strength to increase dramatically. There has never been a limit shown as to the highest strength the Hulk can reach thus it is assumed it is limitless. The Hulk has shown many incredible feats over the years, including holding up a 150 billion ton mountain during the Secret Wars and breaking open Onslaught’s armor when the combined might of the rest of the world’s heroes couldn’t even make a scratch in it.
November 20th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Actually, Savage Hulk has the same base strength as grey Hulk.
And Hulk never lifted 150 billion tons in SECRET WARS. I mentioned this before. He only managed to lift a fraction of ONE mountain, and it was the entire mountain RANGE that weighed 150 billion tons.
November 20th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Devil Hulk – This 1 I never even heard of before .. First Appearance:The Incredible Hulk #12 (2000)
Identity Basis: All the dark, negative, self-loathing thoughts and emotions Bruce keep buried formed into a separate personality. This is the most dangerous identity of them all.
Strength: unknown
Intelligence: unknown but at least normal human intelligence
Transformation: unknown
November 20th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Most of Hulk’s different incarnations come from his multiple-personality disorder. In Merged/Professor Hulk’s case, it’s a mix of selected personality traits. Devil Hulk was a personality, but to my knowledge, never actually was a Hulk incarnation. Simply a personality Bruce encountered when roaming the prison of personalities of his own subconscious. I wonder what drugs in addition to acid the writer was on when thinking this up.
November 20th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Here are some cool comic pics of the hulk – wish I still owned these. http://www.bamkapow.com/the-incredible-hulk-s-most-amazing-feats-1399-p.html
November 20th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
I know it’s been said that Dr Manhattan’s power is overated but can someone give any more info? Thanks.
November 20th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Ive just looked at the Hulk’s most amazing feats…he ate Galactus! WTF?
November 20th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Pretty cool Mark, thanks.
Some of those feats are in alternative universes, Eating Galactus, was on the Marvel Zombie series and the breaking of wolwerine, was actually a nightmare that wolwerine had.
November 20th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
NP guys, if you know of any cool Hulk sites let me know.
November 20th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Yeah, Hulk eating Galactus isn’t canon. MARVEL ZOMBIES is neither canon, nor meant to be anywhere near accurate the majority of the time compared to Earth-616 of the Marvel Universe.
November 20th, 2009 at 2:04 am
Delta=GAY,homo,queer,dog rapist,dick swallower and jizz snorter.I also fucked your mother until she was in a coma then I fucked her while she was in the coma.
November 20th, 2009 at 4:17 am
Scarlett Dragon, why do you think a little fucking piece of shit as worthless as you, a mistaken incestial cumshot, from already inbred parents, would matter to me? Say whatever the fuck you want, you’re just a little pussy bitch who’d get the shit beaten out of you by me with one hand.
November 20th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Hahaha. Delta, most of your comments have weight, however this is somewhat diminshed by your abuse of Mark, it doesnt take knowledge.
And, unfortunately, im rather compelled by marks argument that your only tough over your CPU.
I find it hard to beleive that someone with such a vast knowledge of comics has any time to train in any way that would provide you with the strength or skill to be tough.
your “base level strength” would be roughly a 5 out of 100, 100 being the strongest real person on earth, 1 being a quadreplegic.