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		<title>By: JiAM</title>
		<link>http://old-wizard.com/thor-vs-the-silver-surfer/comment-page-2#comment-47456</link>
		<dc:creator>JiAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys...Gals...no need to get angry! None of us are going to take it out in a desert or deserted warehouse...so chill!

Ok....shew (whipe forehead)...This debate is very good, very opinionated and everyone seems to have a lil heart in this subject.

But we are discussing comics, the written and drawn proof of things (involving this argument). RULK, SENTRY, even the jade giant himself don&#039;t have to appear in this discussion. PERIOD..it&#039;s not a battle royal...it&#039;s Silver Surfer vs. Thor!

Warning, non-bias approach here, so no &quot;fanboy&quot; comments following this is neccessary! 

Points(facts): - as stated earlier above, SS admits the magic soaked in mjolnir is greater than his power cosmic...(kinda the end of argument...right?)

- another fact: Thor = a god. Not a created volunteer doing the dirty work for someone. Picture a Ninja vs. a Viking...both are badass, but you gotta admit...the viking would rape, steal, bite push or pull to win!...Thor, for example, is a TRAINED warrior, not MADE into something. He was born into god-hood and was given the responsibilities proceeding that title. 

I am an avid SS fan, whatever that means, and I do believe that this battle would honestly be very devasting to both characters. Both would tire out and probably call it a night...there ya have it

*we can almost ALL agree on this*

BOTH characters are (imo) not used accurately any way nowadays in comics! Surfer could come down and help fuck up RULK and aid Thor with this seige B.S....but nope...

This is an example of Marvel creating characters that are TOO beyond comprehension...

SENTRY? A million jerked off suns? No! He&#039;s an emotional mess, created to get the attention of the emos that have suddenly been awakened with the likes of Fallout boy and Twilight...

Thor, GOD of thunder...but can get whipped by a 1 year character? He should be able to lay the pipe down on any and everyone on Earth!

Surfer, herald of Gal and journeyman of the cosmos?...NO...he is written as a shy, almost abused quiet guy who can make cool possed while surfing the stars...

Marvel creates this 100+ class heros but can&#039;t find any other way to control them but to create a better and more powerful mutant/being/entity/skyfather/thing/or person to rumble with them...o the possiblities...

To conclude, stop being so angry and start thinking before typing please. Everyone seems like they have the noodles to bicker! Great, but I say we team together and destroy Norman Osborne, Sentry and all the other wackness recently created in Marvel...

...and if you have Surfer&#039;s number, hit him up and get him back into some issues damn-it! He didn&#039;t even show up to the Planet Hulk filming! 

Peace~ JiAM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys&#8230;Gals&#8230;no need to get angry! None of us are going to take it out in a desert or deserted warehouse&#8230;so chill!</p>
<p>Ok&#8230;.shew (whipe forehead)&#8230;This debate is very good, very opinionated and everyone seems to have a lil heart in this subject.</p>
<p>But we are discussing comics, the written and drawn proof of things (involving this argument). RULK, SENTRY, even the jade giant himself don&#8217;t have to appear in this discussion. PERIOD..it&#8217;s not a battle royal&#8230;it&#8217;s Silver Surfer vs. Thor!</p>
<p>Warning, non-bias approach here, so no &#8220;fanboy&#8221; comments following this is neccessary! </p>
<p>Points(facts): &#8211; as stated earlier above, SS admits the magic soaked in mjolnir is greater than his power cosmic&#8230;(kinda the end of argument&#8230;right?)</p>
<p>- another fact: Thor = a god. Not a created volunteer doing the dirty work for someone. Picture a Ninja vs. a Viking&#8230;both are badass, but you gotta admit&#8230;the viking would rape, steal, bite push or pull to win!&#8230;Thor, for example, is a TRAINED warrior, not MADE into something. He was born into god-hood and was given the responsibilities proceeding that title. </p>
<p>I am an avid SS fan, whatever that means, and I do believe that this battle would honestly be very devasting to both characters. Both would tire out and probably call it a night&#8230;there ya have it</p>
<p>*we can almost ALL agree on this*</p>
<p>BOTH characters are (imo) not used accurately any way nowadays in comics! Surfer could come down and help fuck up RULK and aid Thor with this seige B.S&#8230;.but nope&#8230;</p>
<p>This is an example of Marvel creating characters that are TOO beyond comprehension&#8230;</p>
<p>SENTRY? A million jerked off suns? No! He&#8217;s an emotional mess, created to get the attention of the emos that have suddenly been awakened with the likes of Fallout boy and Twilight&#8230;</p>
<p>Thor, GOD of thunder&#8230;but can get whipped by a 1 year character? He should be able to lay the pipe down on any and everyone on Earth!</p>
<p>Surfer, herald of Gal and journeyman of the cosmos?&#8230;NO&#8230;he is written as a shy, almost abused quiet guy who can make cool possed while surfing the stars&#8230;</p>
<p>Marvel creates this 100+ class heros but can&#8217;t find any other way to control them but to create a better and more powerful mutant/being/entity/skyfather/thing/or person to rumble with them&#8230;o the possiblities&#8230;</p>
<p>To conclude, stop being so angry and start thinking before typing please. Everyone seems like they have the noodles to bicker! Great, but I say we team together and destroy Norman Osborne, Sentry and all the other wackness recently created in Marvel&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and if you have Surfer&#8217;s number, hit him up and get him back into some issues damn-it! He didn&#8217;t even show up to the Planet Hulk filming! </p>
<p>Peace~ JiAM</p>
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		<title>By: Xi Felix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xi Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally would favor Surfer in a 1 on 1 bout.</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Murray</title>
		<link>http://old-wizard.com/thor-vs-the-silver-surfer/comment-page-2#comment-42476</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thor beating Silver Surfer is wrong by definition, but the writer/storyteller can say whatever he wants... he owns it all.
I recall reading one of Thor comics where he is thrown away from a building under construction by a stupid foe, while he falls, waiting for certain death (would the SS die from falling?), Spiderman rescues him. This foe also threw a tractor to one of the building main columns, so Thor used all his strength to hold the building while Spiderman &quot;solders&quot; some iron columns with his, err, web.
Seriously, SS can move/destroy entire planets, he can manipulate matter in subatomic scale, transmute stuff, no cold nor heat (thus, no thunders) can harm his body.
There is an enourmous inconsistency in Thor, a being which needs food, water, air, made of (hard) flesh, who could barely hold a building, beating a guy that is, by definition, immune to heat (thunders), absorbs energy from the cosmos and manipulates matter.
Thor almost didn&#039;t survive a few minutes in space, because he needs air (see Thor #386 or #387)!!!

But now, if the creator comes and says: Thor is more powerful than SS, what else can we say? What else do YOU have left to decide?
It&#039;s like saying: car A has 50HP, car B has 1000HP, car A is more powerful than car B.

And those are undeniable arguments, also taken from the comics. Thor was never supposed to be more powerful than someone created by a cosmic entity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thor beating Silver Surfer is wrong by definition, but the writer/storyteller can say whatever he wants&#8230; he owns it all.<br />
I recall reading one of Thor comics where he is thrown away from a building under construction by a stupid foe, while he falls, waiting for certain death (would the SS die from falling?), Spiderman rescues him. This foe also threw a tractor to one of the building main columns, so Thor used all his strength to hold the building while Spiderman &#8220;solders&#8221; some iron columns with his, err, web.<br />
Seriously, SS can move/destroy entire planets, he can manipulate matter in subatomic scale, transmute stuff, no cold nor heat (thus, no thunders) can harm his body.<br />
There is an enourmous inconsistency in Thor, a being which needs food, water, air, made of (hard) flesh, who could barely hold a building, beating a guy that is, by definition, immune to heat (thunders), absorbs energy from the cosmos and manipulates matter.<br />
Thor almost didn&#8217;t survive a few minutes in space, because he needs air (see Thor #386 or #387)!!!</p>
<p>But now, if the creator comes and says: Thor is more powerful than SS, what else can we say? What else do YOU have left to decide?<br />
It&#8217;s like saying: car A has 50HP, car B has 1000HP, car A is more powerful than car B.</p>
<p>And those are undeniable arguments, also taken from the comics. Thor was never supposed to be more powerful than someone created by a cosmic entity.</p>
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		<title>By: Farelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Farelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you haven&#039;t decided anything, since the comics show very clearly that Thor is more powerful than Silver Surfer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you haven&#8217;t decided anything, since the comics show very clearly that Thor is more powerful than Silver Surfer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Delta</title>
		<link>http://old-wizard.com/thor-vs-the-silver-surfer/comment-page-2#comment-34941</link>
		<dc:creator>Delta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alpha-q.....

If you mean the Power Cosmic, then no, it&#039;s not above the Odin Force. Not nearly.

And Skyfathers are a lil&#039; lower than the Celestials? Doesn&#039;t appear to be. Since Odin, most powerful of the Skyfathers, and almost all of Asgard, had animated the Destroyer, a weapon MADE to fight Celestials and was given some of the power of multiple Skyfathers(who got together to help with the prep to face the Celestials) and.....didn&#039;t do a damn thing, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alpha-q&#8230;..</p>
<p>If you mean the Power Cosmic, then no, it&#8217;s not above the Odin Force. Not nearly.</p>
<p>And Skyfathers are a lil&#8217; lower than the Celestials? Doesn&#8217;t appear to be. Since Odin, most powerful of the Skyfathers, and almost all of Asgard, had animated the Destroyer, a weapon MADE to fight Celestials and was given some of the power of multiple Skyfathers(who got together to help with the prep to face the Celestials) and&#8230;..didn&#8217;t do a damn thing, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Alpha-q</title>
		<link>http://old-wizard.com/thor-vs-the-silver-surfer/comment-page-2#comment-34656</link>
		<dc:creator>Alpha-q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sweet comment Tejas, but i&#039;ll agree with delta. I have one question... isn&#039;t comic power leage above from odinforce, if so... please leave a comment. from what i read in previous threads, skyfathers are a step away from galactus and lil&#039; lower than the celestials...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sweet comment Tejas, but i&#8217;ll agree with delta. I have one question&#8230; isn&#8217;t comic power leage above from odinforce, if so&#8230; please leave a comment. from what i read in previous threads, skyfathers are a step away from galactus and lil&#8217; lower than the celestials&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alberto</title>
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		<dc:creator>alberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahahahahahaha Tejas, nice joke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahahahahahaha Tejas, nice joke</p>
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		<title>By: Delta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the FUCK are you on Tejas? Where the FUCK did you get that Thor has defeated Superman? Even those that keep arguing it&#039;s not in continuity would laugh at you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the FUCK are you on Tejas? Where the FUCK did you get that Thor has defeated Superman? Even those that keep arguing it&#8217;s not in continuity would laugh at you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tejas</title>
		<link>http://old-wizard.com/thor-vs-the-silver-surfer/comment-page-2#comment-33328</link>
		<dc:creator>Tejas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thor and SS are sure a same power level. Thor can defeat Hulk with ease.  Now what do ya say. Thor and SS can defeat Hulk. Just one throw of Mjolnir and hulk is knock outt. Thor can kick hulks butts. Superman has defeated Hulk in DC Versus Marvel crossover. And Thor has defeated Superman. This Shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thor and SS are sure a same power level. Thor can defeat Hulk with ease.  Now what do ya say. Thor and SS can defeat Hulk. Just one throw of Mjolnir and hulk is knock outt. Thor can kick hulks butts. Superman has defeated Hulk in DC Versus Marvel crossover. And Thor has defeated Superman. This Shows.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just look at how ridiculous looked the SS when trying to stop Thanos at Thanos quest, Thor has shown much more against him. 

Besides this in terms of endurance Thor is in a much higher level</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just look at how ridiculous looked the SS when trying to stop Thanos at Thanos quest, Thor has shown much more against him. </p>
<p>Besides this in terms of endurance Thor is in a much higher level</p>
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