Thor vs. Superman

Thor vs. Superman

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Last Updated:: July 15, 2008

The Mighty Thor and Superman are the heavy-hitters of Marvel and DC respectively, each of them arguably the most powerful hero in their respective universes. So its natural that this is without question the most discussed versus debate amongst comic book fans. No other versus battle comes close to being talked about as much than this one. Try to start a “Superman vs Thor” thread on any forum and the first response is sure to be: “Not this again”.

Some of you may remember our “Top 10 Most Powerful Superheroes” list that we released a while back, where we made the controversial claim that Thor was the most powerful superhero of all time (Superman coming in at number three on that list). Months later we are still receiving emails either agreeing with us, or flaming us for that decision. Many fans cite Superman’s speed as the deciding factor in any fight between the two behemoths. Other emails claim that Thor’s magical powers would be enough to stop the man of steel in his tracks. So, the natural question is, do we still stand by our claim that Thor is more powerful than Superman? The answer is still “yes.” In this article we’ll break down the seven most common arguments and give you our take on them.

1. Super Strength

The claim has often been made that Superman is stronger than Thor. Many times on versus forums threads this claim is accepted as a given by both sides of the debate. We don’t concede that the Man of Steel is physically stronger than the god of thunder though. Thor has performed feats such as lifting the World Serpent, and once hurled the Odinsword, an enormous mystical blade, through a Celestial! Thor has also single-handedly matched the strength of the Hulk on numerous occasions (the Marvel Universe’s strongest character). Not only that but Thor is capable of entering into a state known as the “Warrior’s Madness”, which will temporarily increase his strength tenfold. Some of these feats have no true equivalent in the DC universe. We think at the very least, the two character’s physical strength is equal.

2 . Super Speed

This is Superman’s one true advantage in this fight. Superman is fast. We’re talking warp speed fast. We’re talking once around the entire planet and back before you can blink fast. You could easily make the argument that Thor would be lucky if he even saw Superman before he got pounded. But is Thor as slow as everyone seems to think? Unknown to many DC fanboys Thor can throw his hammer at the speed of light (See Thor#140, Thor#274). He can also swing it at TWICE the speed of light (Journey Into Mystery#102). In Thor -#393- it’s established that the speed of Thor’s hammer TRANSCENDS both TIME & SPACE. In addition Thor can appear anywhere across the Universe or other dimensions in just seconds (see- FF#339, and Thor#166). And, most importantly, Thor could, visually, detect objects that move at fantastic speeds (this happened when Thor was the target of artillery fire- see Invaders#33- and Avengers-#281- when he saw the speedy Hermes. And yes, I do need a life). Now if we accept that Superman can move at 99% of the speed of light, and that Thor can swing his hammer at twice the speed of light, it stands to reason that big blue is in some trouble. It’s true that Thor doesn’t use his super speed abilities often, but how many times have you seen Superman not use his super speed when he should have?

3. Stanima

Who can take more punishment, Thor or Superman? This is a difficult question. Thor has withstood a blast from Asgardian Destroyer. Superman has withstood a direct hit from a nuclear bomb. Thor has taken everything the Hulk could dish out. Thor also once took a glancing hit by a Doomsday Bomb that was capable of destroying an entire planet, and soon after that explosion he fell from space (leaving a crater miles wide) to a planet called Pangoria-see Thor#387. Thor has also taken everything that Gladiator (an arguably more powerful version of Superman) could dish out. Both characters have come back from the dead a couple of times. In my mind this one is a draw. Both characters have approximately the same stanima. The difference is Superman has weaknesses (i.e. Kryptonite, Magic, and the fact he is powerless without yellow sunlight) whereas Thor pretty much doesn’t.

4. Magic

Even the most diehard Superman fan would concede that Thor’s magical abilities would be an advantage for Thor. First, I would like to note that just because an opponent can wield magic, it in no way guarantees a win over the last son of Krypton. Superman has defeated countless magic users in the past, and so I have no illusions that just because Thor has magic powers and a magic hammer that he would automatically own Superman. That being said magic is just as lethal against Supes as kryptonite. Superman has no defense against it, and it can affect him greatly. Superman getting pounded by Mjolnir is the same as you and me getting pounded by a normal hammer. And consider the guy who’s swinging it. It’s Thor. The god of thunder. Not only that, but Thor’s lightning is magical too. Remember that just a single lightning bolt is equivalent to 15,000,000 volts of electricity and could travel over 224,000 miles an hour. The clear advantage here goes to Thor.

5. Super Powers

Before Thor inherited the Odinforce, the super powers of these two heroes were a little more even. Now there is absolutely no contest. Thor has a clear edge over Superman here. His magical hammer gives Thor the ability to control the weather, the ability to fly; energy projection and absorption; dimensional apertures; matter manipulation, as well as the most powerful of his offensive powers: the God Blast, and the Anti-Force. Superman is no push over in this department either, with the already mentioned super strength, super speed, as well as heat vision, x-ray vision, enhanced senses, and the ability to blow hurricane force winds from his mouth. But what is that compared to being able to summon an actual hurricane? Not only that but with the Odinforce Thor was then capable of feats such as reconstructing the Earth’s Moon,willing the Asgardian monster Mangog into nothingness, and by focusing his entire power into a hammer throw that even decapitated a Desak-occupied Asgardian Destroyer. Having accepted his heritage as the son of the earth goddess Gaea, he has recently been shown to be capable of opening chasms in the earth itself, and who knows what other abilities he’ll be displaying now that he’s done that.

6. Superman beat Thor in the Avengers / DC Crossover

I don’t want to spend much time on this one. Most fans of comics know how much weight we should give to crossovers. Besides, I personally have no doubt that Superman would beat Galactus in a crossover. He’s DC’s flagship character after all. Enough said on that one.

7. Thor has Thousands of Years of Combat Experience

This is a common argument used by Thor fans to claim that Thor would take down Superman. It seems fairly obvious. If I somehow gained super powers and a Viking Warrior somehow gained the exact same or nearly equivalent powers, most people would put their money on the Viking if we fought each other. Now imagine the Viking warrior was thousands of years older than me, and had been using his powers for all those thousands of years to battle trolls, giants, demons, robots, aliens, and gods, and I have only been using my powers for 20-30 years. It seems clear to me that the Viking Warrior god has a clear cut advantage over me in a fight. Again advantage Thor.

It seems obvious to me that Thor has a clear advantage over Superman in a fight. I don’t think that Thor is so powerful that there is no way that Superman could ever defeat him. But I believe that the majority of the time Thor would beat Superman in a one on one fight, assuming its not a fight to the death. If it is a fight to the death, then I think Thor would almost invariably win. So there you have it, the definitive answer to one of the most talked about and controversial debates in comic book nerdom. Brought to you by your pals at Old-Wizard.com.

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2,308 Comments

#1 fun fun says:
March 18th, 2010 at 6:35 am

I know what you are saying, but that just seems like no sense. His power is from the Sun and cause he bathe there for a long long time and to compare him to someone that has power that is leap and bounds above 1 star.

#2 ShadowHunter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 8:26 am

Fun fun : Brainiac once said that Superman was a cosmic being. It might be true after all…

#3 BERSERKR says:
March 18th, 2010 at 8:33 am

e his rebirth; however, Thor’s eyes have both been restored, and there is no visible indication at any instance that the Runes have been retained.
Odin Force:The Odin Force enables him to tap into the practically infinite resources of cosmic and mystical energies of the dimension Asgard exists within, enhancing all of his abilities in turn. The sum total of Odin’s power as the king of Asgard plus the power of his brothers Vili and Ve, as well as his own, which made Thor effectively omnipotent. The Odin Force significantly increased Thor’s powers as well as giving him greater abilities than his father Odin and the previous Asgardian skyfathers possessed. While only barely tapping into the limitless power of his vast magical power, Thor was capable of easily disintegrating Captain America’s shield with simply a look, easily teleport Asgard to the skies above New York City, able to recreate the moon after it was destroyed in a battle with him and a powerful entity, will Mangog into nothingness, decapitate a Desak-occupied Destroyer by focusing a portion of his power into one Mjolnir hurl, and easily conquer all of Earth, and defeat all of its inhabitants such as the powerful Sorcerer Supreme Dr. Strange etc. According to the Odin Force (which took the shape of Odin), Thor recreating celestial bodies and his other accomplishments during his time on Earth were nothing but minimal compared to the Odin Power’s limitless power[46], and to illustrate its point, it casually creates a pocket Universe. After acquiring the power of the Runes his powers reached even greater heights, and he reached the point of surpassing his father in power to an even greater extent. With gaining the power of the Runes he gained understanding and enlightenment. He became virtually omniscient as well as quasi-omnipotent, being able to see the past, present, and future completely, being able to see past the veil of time itself, he could see the future of all things, of every man and beast, every leaf on every tree, he could see beyond quantum structure; beyond the cosmic architecture, into the nothingness itself and the end of all things.

UUUUmmmm, pretty sure that sounds like a man who is easily as Powerful as this mythical Gold superman prime.

#4 ShadowHunter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 1:12 am

BERSERKR : Again, you show your lack of knowledge by saying that Odin Thor can beat Gold Superman Prime. Please, go read your comics.

#5 BERSERKR says:
March 18th, 2010 at 4:11 am

Did you not read what i just wrote, for one instance The Odin force in the form of Odin CASUALLY created a pocket universe to show what can be accomplished with just a small sample of the Odin force, did you not read what i wrote? Thor with the Odin force defeated EVERYONE on earth, Conquering it, and that was nothing to him, he could do so much more, its like your not reading what i am writing, so basically your saying creating a pocket universe and recreating the moon after he destroyed it and defeating everyone on earth and conquering it and being virtually omniscient as well as quasi-omnipotent, being able to see the past, present, and future completely, being able to see past the veil of time itself, he could see the future of all things, of every man and beast, every leaf on every tree, he could see beyond quantum structure; beyond the cosmic architecture, into the nothingness itself and the end of all things is nothing.

#6 ShadowHunter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 5:57 am

BERSERKR : Gold Superman Prime can defeat everyone on Earth anytime and conquer it anytime…He can even give his powers to his descendants.

His travels lasted from the 21st Century, and ended somewhere at the turn of the 700th Century. During his travels, he acquired vast abilities and skills from across the universe. When he returned he forged a covenant with his descendants, he would bestow upon them a small fraction of his power as long as they served for truth and justice. After the covenant he left and returned into his fortress of solitude in the centre of the Super Sun.When Solaris fired what he thought was the Knight Fragment at the Sun in order to try and kill Superman Prime just as Green Lantern retrieved a DNA sample from Solaris’ core placed their when he was constructed, Kyle started a supernova reaction in Solaris’ core and attempted to contain the explosion with his power ring. He was joined by Kal Kent who used his force vision to contain the explosion. Superman Prime suddenly reappeared from the Sun after fifteen thousand years of absorbing Solar energy and crushed the tyrant sun once and for all with the Green Lantern Ring that Solaris had inadvertently given him. The time he spent in the sun magnified his already great power to presumably infinite levels. His strength and other countless abilities he gained also rose to unknown levels from the time he spent in the sun.
In the aftermath of Solaris’ destruction a lot was revealed about Superman Prime’s hibernation in the Super Sun. He had been waiting for Solaris’ attempt because he obviously remembered the events as his time traveling younger self had been there. He knew about the DNA sample in Solaris’ core and, with the help of Lzyxm Ltpkz, the Superman of the Fifth Dimension, and Hourman, turned it inside out resurrecting his beloved Lois Lane. After what seemed like a billion years to him, he had retreated into the sun to await her return and now a silver Lois Lane and a golden Superman Prime were reunited. In all the time since her death life had held no meaning or warmth for him, but now he was complete once more.

Here is a picture of Kyle, coming back to the present after he has seen Gold Superman Prime : http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/6/69/Gold_Prime_Superman_Re-creates_Krypton.jpg

#7 BERSERKR says:
March 18th, 2010 at 6:55 am

Sounds intriguing i must read this, You should read All Star Superman, it was an amazing book.

#8 ShadowHunter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 7:00 am

I read it. It was superb.

#9 ShadowHunter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 7:01 am

Most of people don’t know about Gold Superman Prime. They imagine he’s like the Modern One but he’s far away from it. If I good understand, he started evolving when he heard that he was a descendant of Rao, the Sun god.

#10 BERSERKR says:
March 18th, 2010 at 7:11 am

Looks Weird:P i wouldn’t want to be a gold person.

#11 Alberto says:
March 18th, 2010 at 3:01 pm

@BERSERKR

One thing that have to be understand about Superman Prime One million is that He is granting powers to the Supeman dynasty. He grants powers and He takes them away. Even Superman one million is like a flea compared to him. Superman one million while DEPOWERED OR WEAK, PUNCHED his way in the time strean trough 832 centuries. This is something He can do easylly if He is fully powered, but He accomplish this while weakened.

Superman prime one million destroyed Solaris easilly and Solaris was capable to kill Superman one million at full power.

I’ll get back later and read all the post

#12 BERSERKR says:
March 18th, 2010 at 3:54 pm

Odin or Thor with the Odin force has the ability to grant and take away powers as well.

#13 Alberto says:
March 18th, 2010 at 11:15 pm

Yes, I know that Odin Power grants powers as well. But has the Odin Power grant power to someone who can punch his way trough 832 centuries and still look like a flea compared to him?

Can Odin lift 200 quintillion tons with his left hand without effort?

200 quintillions tons being used as the smallest tinyest minimum weight that Superman Prime one million could lift

There are too many unknow things about Superman Prime One Million and no too many feats, He has only appeared in 3 issues, but on those 3 issues they tried to make us understand How powerful this guy was. Some people are saying that in his voyage trough the universe, He became the Presence itself.
Becasue He reffers to our universe as HIS universe.

I personally don’t think is true, but He is really powerful.

I think (and this is my most personal opinion) That Superman Prime one Million is above 5th dimension Imp level.

Do not think that 5th dimension Imps are chumps.
They ALWAYS play along, as long as they have fun with it. They are not only reality changers, they are reality destroyers and can destroy the multiverse if they wish. A 5th dimension Imp is basically the representation of the writers wishes.
They can retcon realities and destroy multiverses.
Even the Spectre and the quintesence are nothing compared to the power of a 5th Dimension Imp.

#14 Alberto says:
March 18th, 2010 at 11:17 pm

Superman Prime One Million, only appears in the one million sagas and all star Superman

#15 BERSERKR says:
March 18th, 2010 at 11:46 pm

Odins power isn’t about strength, Classic Thor is Physically Stronger than Odin, but i agree that Gold Superman Prime is a powerful SOB.

#16 ravana says:
March 18th, 2010 at 5:47 am

Alberto
in which issue did superman fly through darkseid.

#17 Alberto says:
March 18th, 2010 at 6:48 am

@Ravana

Death of the new gods # 5 (I Think)

Is one of the events related to countdown to Final Crisis.

#18 ShadowHunter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 7:45 am

Alright. I am giving a weapon to Superman. I am tired of people saying that ”Mjolnir will kill him”. Than let me give a weapon to Superman. I’m giving him the Michael’s Battle Spear. It has been said that Michael’s Battle Spear is more powerfull than Michael’s Sword. Who’s Michael? The Archangel Michael. The real owner of the Sword and the Battle Spear is Zauriel, a guardian angel who fought against Asmodel and joined the JLA for a little while. Let me give you some information about the Sword.

Zauriel’s third piece of equipment is Michael’s Sword. This sword, which is characteristic of both guardian angels depicted thus far, is directly bonded to Zauriel’s will, which logically prevents anyone else from using it. Because it is controlled by Zauriel’s will, the sword can cut literally anything, including otherwise intangible objects and people, and even dimensional fabric itself. Magically pumped up by teammates, Zauriel was once able to cut a hole in the dimensional barrier separating Heaven and Earth, enabling himself and his team to transverse dimensions. The fiery sword is also able to emit blasts of fire. This sword seems to be a staple among angelic beings, and all angels seem to possess a personalized weapon. Since these beings appear to be relatively immortal, and everything they do is personalized, it would make sense that each angel would have a weapon keyed to just them. The flaming sword is a devastating weapon capable of rending steel and brick as well as human flesh.

And for once, let’s say that Superman is an Angel and that he can use that Sword.

By the way, Ganthet is very powerfull….

#19 ShadowHunter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 7:48 am

Alberto : Do you think Krona is a big threat? Even if most of his feats were showed during the JLA/Avengers crossover? If he really can do what he did during that crossover, the guy is stronger than the Anti-Monitor…

#20 Alberto says:
March 18th, 2010 at 4:26 pm

@ShadowHunter

Krona is really powerful.

I don’t think he is as powerful as Crisis Anti-Monitor.

He was stopped momentarelly by Grandmaster

Anti-monitor gain the power of the “universe” everytime he destroyed one. And it keept pilling on
Universe on top of universe. He had already destroyed 1,000 universes by the time of the crisis.
So technically he had the power of 1,000 “universes”
If I remember correctly

Also If I remember correctly When Barry died, It was because Anti-monitor put most of his 1,000 “universes” energy into his cannon. With this energy He planned to destroyed the 5 or 6 remaining universes with a single action, instead of destroying them one by one.

The canon was activated by a tachion, Barry raced and stop the tachion I think before the canon was fired (this was explained in a Flash Issue years after the crisis).This was what “killed” Barry Allen.After Allen destoryed the canon,some energy was reabsorbed by the Anti-monitor. This is why Flash was so important to the Crisis event. It was actually Flash, not Superman or any other Superhero the one who trully saved the multiverse

But in short. If the Anti-monitor gain the power of a universe everytime he destroyed one, It was pretty much PIS when he got defeated, You can actually say that, because of this Anti-monitor was in fact really close to the Presence Power level.

At his peak before the canon event Anti-monitor had the power of most “infinite” universes destroyed and there was only 5 or 6 Universe alive.

So maybe the presence was only 5 or 6 universes more powerful than anti-monitor.

But this is my take on Anti-monitor

#21 ShadowHunter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

Alberto : Are almost all the Monitors that strong or is it just Anti-Monitor?

#22 Alberto says:
March 18th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

Only Anti-monitor

#23 Alberto says:
March 18th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

@Shadowhunter

I actually check the comic book

It says that Each time a matter universe is destroyed the anti matter universe expandes and fills the void. This is what makes anti-monitor so powerful.

When He creates the anti matter canon, the energy comes from the anti-matter universe. When Barry destroyed the canon, AM was so piss off that He killed everything and everyone in his anti-matter universe in order to absorb it’s remaining energy. Imagine this.

The whole remaining energy of an expanded anti-matter universe!!!

Worth mentioning here!!!

On his 1st stage Anti-monitor sneak attacked Superman and ALMOST killed him. Supergirl died saving Superman.

This however is inconsistent with the character, because at “Full” force He was almost destroyed by Supergirl and at remaining anti-matter earth 1 Superman and earth 2 Superman did shit to him.

But regardless of that, Even at remaining anti-matter powered anti-monitor, He was really powerful.

This is why It cracks me up when people says Galactus is more powerful than Anti-monitor.

I think I read somewhere , that anti-monitor was acknowledge in wizard magazine as the most powerful villian of all time. (at the time Great evil beast did not existed)

The anti-monitor Defeat at the hands of a handfull of Super heroes is nothing but PIS

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/antimonitor2.gif?t=1262805849

#24 Alberto says:
March 18th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

Bottom first page

“thousands of universe have died”

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/antimonitor.gif?t=1262806436

Second page top

“I will absorb the antimatter energy of MORE than one million worlds”

#25 Alberto says:
March 18th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

@Ravana

OK, the issue number is Death of the new gods #8

is part of countdown to final crisis and it has a publication date of Jan 08

#26 darkvatican says:
March 18th, 2010 at 7:09 pm

Ah, this is, some would say, the ultimate comic nerd question. As a nerd, I’m now going to toss in my two cents!

Starting off, the difference between the Marvel and DC Universes… The DC Universe operates at a constant high-end in the powers department. Marvel operates at a lower FUNCTIONAL level of power. Meaning they use a much smaller degree of the power they supposedly have. This leads to the feats of power in the Marvel U being very inconsistent. Sometimes Thor gets beaten up pretty good by the likes of the Wrecker and his crew, but then he’s able to deal w/Celestials?? Another example, Thor getting beaten in combat by Beta Ray Bill and being all BUT man-handled by Hercules in a test of combat prowess. But then look at his feats and accomplishments – taking everything Gladiator could dish out, wielding the Odinsword, going toe-to-toe w/the Hulk, etc. Everyone who has read Marvel comics for any considerable length of time knowes that Thor is Marvel’s “most powerful” character, and yet he’s completely fumbled many times over, as well. Now, DC always has Supes functioning at a high end in his storylines. He’s constantly under assault by enemies armed with one or both of his big weaknesses. He’s dealt with the likes of Captain Marvel AND Black Adam (who are his equal in all physical terms except speed – Supes has a little bit of speed on him) and thier super-potent magical lightning attacks. He went the distance with the original Doomsday, w/out a doubt the most physically-powerful “villain” in the DCU. He’s had dozens of run-ins with Wonder Woman over the years, who uses an arsenal or magical equipment, to include weapons and armor. And if we’re going to count in Thor’s resources and abilities that he doesn’t usually use(all but never, in fact), we also need to consider Superman’s assets and abilities which he doesn’t usually bring into play. For example – the enormous amount of computational and analytical data that is available to him through the Fortress of Solitude, not to mention the weaponry. Thor may not have specific weaknesses like Supes does, but it’s been shown that he can be pummelled just like anyone else – it just takes someone of adequate super strength to do so.

In the end, the thing that DC and Marvel have in common is that both of their “most powerful” characters have, on numerous occassions, lost to people who, at the time, were insinuated to be more powerful than the hero in question. This goes for villains and heroes alike. Both Thor and Superman have lost to people far less powerful than they themselves are and beaten people who many comic fans/experts would say are far more powerful than they themselves are. As far as I’m concerned, the true battle between Thor and Superman can only be fought one way – unarmed. If Superman agrees not to bring any devices/weapons/armor into the fight and Thor did the same, then it would be THOR who would be fighting at a significantly-reduced power level than normal. As such, I believe it is THOR who would be defeated. Superman is very accustomed to fighting people, armed with weaponry that can harm him physically and/or with magic or unarmed, but Thor is used to HAVING his equipment with him in battle. If Thor were to give up his hammer, armor, and enchanted belt of strength, then I believe he would lose. And that’s my two cents!

#27 ShadowHunter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 10:22 pm

Alberto : Superboy Prime survived a direct blast from Anti-Monitor. Who’s stronger between Superboy Prime and Ganthet?

#28 Alberto says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:05 am

@ShadowHunter

Stronger? Prime

More powerful Ganthet I guess

#29 ShadowHunter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 11:41 pm

This debate is dead…so who is the winner?

#30 Alberto says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:13 am

Don’t even start with that question because you are just ignating the fire

Winner Supeman

#31 Alberto says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:13 am

Don’t even start with that question because you are just ignating the fire

Winner Supeman

#32 ShadowHunter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:17 am

Alberto : Well, that’s what I’m good for. I’m good at bringing the people back on forums. Mostly fanboys.

Winner Superman

#33 Alberto says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:23 am

I’m a fanboy

#34 Data says:
March 18th, 2010 at 1:35 am

Is this a joke? How could Superman even have a CHANCE against Thor?

#35 ShadowHunter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 7:57 am

Same here. The difference is that we are open to suggestions and informations. Real fanboys are not open minded. They don’t even care about anything even if their favourite Superhero got his ass kicked by someone like Hawkeye of Green Arrow… lol.

#36 ShadowHunter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 7:58 am

For every Hulk fans, Green Arrow > Any version of Hulk.

How? Phantom Arrow. An arrow that send anyone in the Phantom Zone. The only one who escaped was Superboy Prime and WWH is FARRRRRR Away from SBP strenght level, lol!

#37 Paul says:
March 18th, 2010 at 7:40 pm

Is this a joke? With the Odin Force Thor willed the Moon back together!!! He tore open the crust the Earth with a thought. He recreated Asgard from thin air! He resurrected gods from the dead. He defeated the Asgardian destroyer (while it was inhabited not just by a single human but by all the gods of Asgard at once!!!) (Keep in mind when its inhabited by a mortal man it whooped classic Thor and the Hulk!). Odin himself has wiped out ENITRE GALAXIES!!! Thor is more powerful than Odin too. And Odin created Thor’s hammer, and Beta Ray Bill’s. He swatted the Silver Surfer like he was a bug. He stripped Thor of all his powers with the wave of a hand. He stood against Eternity and there battle destroyed galaxies and sent ripples across the entire multiverse. Odin has been stated ON PANEL to be the most powerful of the skyfathers. Stan Lee called him a meta-skyfather. And OF Thor was stated on panel to be more powerful than Odin. That’s not even taking into account Thor’s mastery of the RUNES. If Odin with no Runes destroys galaxies, what does OF Thor do with Runes? Superman can stand up to Thor? Don’t make me laugh.

#38 hobanho says:
March 18th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

well i think point 6 really sums it all up, superman already beat thor, with the fate of two universes “kinda” hanging in the balance. and i’m not really a huge hulk fan, but i only ever remember a couple good fights with him and thor. hulk smokes thor on a regular basis. that hulk vs thor movie was literally hard to watch, he blasted thor that badly. so if hulk does that to thor, superman would also… just quicker.

#39 ShadowHunter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 11:33 pm

Paul : We’re talking about Classic Thor. Wanna use Rune King Thor? I’ll take Gold Superman Prime. Gold Superman Prime beat Rune King Thor anytime. Why? Million years old, learned powers from EVERYWHERE in EVERY Universes, the Sun gave him INCREDIBLE powers and he got the last GL Ring. How is the ring usefull? The Green Lantern rings are limited by the will of their users. Supermans will is infinite. That close the debate.

#40 alberto says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:15 am

I love how people assume OF THOR is more powerful than Odin. Odin was a MASTER of the Odin Force, Thor did no have enough time to master the OF.

Yes Thor is stronger than Odin, but Odin was master of the ODIN FORCE. So stop saying that OF Thor is more powerful than ODIN, because it has never been stated at a canon comic (at least I have not seen it)

Odin will own any day OF Thor, because Thor is an Odin Force Rookie, Odin is not, Odin is an ODIN FORCE MASTER.

#41 Ken says:
March 18th, 2010 at 7:16 am

They already fought. Superman won. End of story. You can’t just glance over that fact. I admit that I don’t know much about Thor, but I do know that when everything is on the line Superman cannot lose. His will is too strong. How many times does he have to prove it?

Superman cannot lose and so by definition Thor cannot win.

#42 runethor says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:59 pm

the only reason superman beat thor in the jla/avengers cross over.. is that odin intervene again making superman able to stop mjonir and even allowing superman to lift the hammer for couple of minutes.. but in the second attempt of superman trying to lift the hammer.. what happen??? nothing!! superman cant move the hammer from the ground… so next time they figth and no one who could intervene.. all superman can get is a crack in the skull!!!

#43 President Steve says:
March 18th, 2010 at 1:33 pm

Wow…I didn’t know Odin intervened in that fight. Not like it matters, as I don’t put much stock in crossovers. Especially ones involving DC’s flagship character.

#44 Reporter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 5:12 am

To all Thor fans

Watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPAh5EuBlak

Even without the Hammer Mjolnir, Thor can do a lot of Animeish stuff.But wait!There’s more!

#45 Reporter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 5:14 am

Here’s Thor doing some Time Antics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkwtHpPx6SI

Rejoice!Thor can still stop time!

MUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#46 alberto says:
March 18th, 2010 at 6:40 am

Rejoice If Thor causes a stasis vortex Modern Superman can Time travel AGAIN

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/FCLegion01Page035.jpg?t=1266820781

LEGION OF THE 3 WORLDS #1

#47 Reporter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:51 pm

@Alberto

Only if he’s contacted by the Legion in the 31st Century.What good is that if Thor freezes him in time?

Briniac 5:We’ll act as a rip cord back to the 31st Century.

Further proof that his ring only act as a way for the Legion to bring him in the 31st Century if there is trouble.

#48 Alberto says:
March 18th, 2010 at 8:01 pm

Agreed there is no eveidence that shows that Superman can move in the time stream at will.

However ther is no evidence as well that Thor STOPS time, The eveidence you have does not specify if the time is stoped or slowed, also is not clear if Thor can perform this on the go during battle, is also not clear how much of an area he can induce into this state.

I will give the advantage to Thor in this cathegory, but is not clear how effective it could during actual combat

#49 Reporter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:00 am

@Alberto

Thor can stop time.In the Journey Into Mystery#110, Thor stopped time in a localized area in order to save Jane Foster’s life.As evidence for Thor actually stopping time, take a look at this scan were innocent bystanders r witnessing the Time stop.Take note:This happened in Journey Into Mystery#111

http://img111.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-32151/loc691/33826_Journey_in_to_mystery111-04_122_691lo.jpg

See?The Guy threw a rock.And that rock stopped in Mid-air.The other guy said “Its scary!Its like that house doesn’t belong in this dimension, or this time!”

#50 Reporter says:
March 18th, 2010 at 12:08 am

@Alberto

The next scan is in Thor#198

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir74-TimeFreeze198.jpg

He uses it on Odin.

Thor:”I’ll freeze time ’bout his sacred form and in this way, when we reach our own dimension, Hela’s hand will be denied him!”

Evidence by the scan from Journey Into Mystery#111, Its pretty obvious Thor still stopped time.The next scan is up next.

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