Thor vs. Superman

Thor vs. Superman

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Last Updated:: July 15, 2008

The Mighty Thor and Superman are the heavy-hitters of Marvel and DC respectively, each of them arguably the most powerful hero in their respective universes. So its natural that this is without question the most discussed versus debate amongst comic book fans. No other versus battle comes close to being talked about as much than this one. Try to start a “Superman vs Thor” thread on any forum and the first response is sure to be: “Not this again”.

Some of you may remember our “Top 10 Most Powerful Superheroes” list that we released a while back, where we made the controversial claim that Thor was the most powerful superhero of all time (Superman coming in at number three on that list). Months later we are still receiving emails either agreeing with us, or flaming us for that decision. Many fans cite Superman’s speed as the deciding factor in any fight between the two behemoths. Other emails claim that Thor’s magical powers would be enough to stop the man of steel in his tracks. So, the natural question is, do we still stand by our claim that Thor is more powerful than Superman? The answer is still “yes.” In this article we’ll break down the seven most common arguments and give you our take on them.

1. Super Strength

The claim has often been made that Superman is stronger than Thor. Many times on versus forums threads this claim is accepted as a given by both sides of the debate. We don’t concede that the Man of Steel is physically stronger than the god of thunder though. Thor has performed feats such as lifting the World Serpent, and once hurled the Odinsword, an enormous mystical blade, through a Celestial! Thor has also single-handedly matched the strength of the Hulk on numerous occasions (the Marvel Universe’s strongest character). Not only that but Thor is capable of entering into a state known as the “Warrior’s Madness”, which will temporarily increase his strength tenfold. Some of these feats have no true equivalent in the DC universe. We think at the very least, the two character’s physical strength is equal.

2 . Super Speed

This is Superman’s one true advantage in this fight. Superman is fast. We’re talking warp speed fast. We’re talking once around the entire planet and back before you can blink fast. You could easily make the argument that Thor would be lucky if he even saw Superman before he got pounded. But is Thor as slow as everyone seems to think? Unknown to many DC fanboys Thor can throw his hammer at the speed of light (See Thor#140, Thor#274). He can also swing it at TWICE the speed of light (Journey Into Mystery#102). In Thor -#393- it’s established that the speed of Thor’s hammer TRANSCENDS both TIME & SPACE. In addition Thor can appear anywhere across the Universe or other dimensions in just seconds (see- FF#339, and Thor#166). And, most importantly, Thor could, visually, detect objects that move at fantastic speeds (this happened when Thor was the target of artillery fire- see Invaders#33- and Avengers-#281- when he saw the speedy Hermes. And yes, I do need a life). Now if we accept that Superman can move at 99% of the speed of light, and that Thor can swing his hammer at twice the speed of light, it stands to reason that big blue is in some trouble. It’s true that Thor doesn’t use his super speed abilities often, but how many times have you seen Superman not use his super speed when he should have?

3. Stanima

Who can take more punishment, Thor or Superman? This is a difficult question. Thor has withstood a blast from Asgardian Destroyer. Superman has withstood a direct hit from a nuclear bomb. Thor has taken everything the Hulk could dish out. Thor also once took a glancing hit by a Doomsday Bomb that was capable of destroying an entire planet, and soon after that explosion he fell from space (leaving a crater miles wide) to a planet called Pangoria-see Thor#387. Thor has also taken everything that Gladiator (an arguably more powerful version of Superman) could dish out. Both characters have come back from the dead a couple of times. In my mind this one is a draw. Both characters have approximately the same stanima. The difference is Superman has weaknesses (i.e. Kryptonite, Magic, and the fact he is powerless without yellow sunlight) whereas Thor pretty much doesn’t.

4. Magic

Even the most diehard Superman fan would concede that Thor’s magical abilities would be an advantage for Thor. First, I would like to note that just because an opponent can wield magic, it in no way guarantees a win over the last son of Krypton. Superman has defeated countless magic users in the past, and so I have no illusions that just because Thor has magic powers and a magic hammer that he would automatically own Superman. That being said magic is just as lethal against Supes as kryptonite. Superman has no defense against it, and it can affect him greatly. Superman getting pounded by Mjolnir is the same as you and me getting pounded by a normal hammer. And consider the guy who’s swinging it. It’s Thor. The god of thunder. Not only that, but Thor’s lightning is magical too. Remember that just a single lightning bolt is equivalent to 15,000,000 volts of electricity and could travel over 224,000 miles an hour. The clear advantage here goes to Thor.

5. Super Powers

Before Thor inherited the Odinforce, the super powers of these two heroes were a little more even. Now there is absolutely no contest. Thor has a clear edge over Superman here. His magical hammer gives Thor the ability to control the weather, the ability to fly; energy projection and absorption; dimensional apertures; matter manipulation, as well as the most powerful of his offensive powers: the God Blast, and the Anti-Force. Superman is no push over in this department either, with the already mentioned super strength, super speed, as well as heat vision, x-ray vision, enhanced senses, and the ability to blow hurricane force winds from his mouth. But what is that compared to being able to summon an actual hurricane? Not only that but with the Odinforce Thor was then capable of feats such as reconstructing the Earth’s Moon,willing the Asgardian monster Mangog into nothingness, and by focusing his entire power into a hammer throw that even decapitated a Desak-occupied Asgardian Destroyer. Having accepted his heritage as the son of the earth goddess Gaea, he has recently been shown to be capable of opening chasms in the earth itself, and who knows what other abilities he’ll be displaying now that he’s done that.

6. Superman beat Thor in the Avengers / DC Crossover

I don’t want to spend much time on this one. Most fans of comics know how much weight we should give to crossovers. Besides, I personally have no doubt that Superman would beat Galactus in a crossover. He’s DC’s flagship character after all. Enough said on that one.

7. Thor has Thousands of Years of Combat Experience

This is a common argument used by Thor fans to claim that Thor would take down Superman. It seems fairly obvious. If I somehow gained super powers and a Viking Warrior somehow gained the exact same or nearly equivalent powers, most people would put their money on the Viking if we fought each other. Now imagine the Viking warrior was thousands of years older than me, and had been using his powers for all those thousands of years to battle trolls, giants, demons, robots, aliens, and gods, and I have only been using my powers for 20-30 years. It seems clear to me that the Viking Warrior god has a clear cut advantage over me in a fight. Again advantage Thor.

It seems obvious to me that Thor has a clear advantage over Superman in a fight. I don’t think that Thor is so powerful that there is no way that Superman could ever defeat him. But I believe that the majority of the time Thor would beat Superman in a one on one fight, assuming its not a fight to the death. If it is a fight to the death, then I think Thor would almost invariably win. So there you have it, the definitive answer to one of the most talked about and controversial debates in comic book nerdom. Brought to you by your pals at Old-Wizard.com.

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2,308 Comments

#1 Alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 3:25 pm

@Reporter

Both cap marvel are well known in both companies
DC Thor on the other hand is just a character that appears once in a while. There is no way you can compare both charaters. One is a pop culture icon the other one is just an extra. That is why Clark aknowledges one and not the other. Contrary to the case of Cap Marvel, Both of them are well known.
That does not change that fact, that DC Thor is the original incarnation in comics, Something that Clark forgot to mention. Why that might be?
Because Marvel Thor is the one who sells the comics!!! not DC Thor.

#2 Alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 3:28 pm

@Rick

Can Galactus be weakenned to an infinitesimal part of his power?

Or he is always at his peak power?

Yes or no?

Kid, you will never learn

#3 Alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 3:50 pm

@Emerald Magus

“GL can move faster than Superman (I’ve already posted a scan showing GL keeping up with the Flash, while Superman couldn’t”

Your scan was from silver age, You want me to show a scan of Superman evading Flashe’s punches from the Silver age?

Or you want me to show a scan of HAL eating dust in a FLASH comic VS Superman and Flash???

Your pick

“He can create Kryptonite (we’ve already seen him do it)”

As long as he has a stonger will than Superman, the kryptonite will work.

“He can out-slug Superman (he’s been shown to do that as well. Superman can mainly do what? As many other people here have pointed out, Superman’s best power is punching really hard. Reading through the debates here, and seeing the best the Superman supporters can do has only re-affirmed by belief that GL is much more powerful than Supes”

Only in your wet dreams my friend. GL power depends on his will and SUPERMAN & BATMAN have USUALLY shown a BIGGER will than HAL & KYLE and MORE OFTEN a bigger will than THE REST of the corps.
TO THE DEGREE of Superman being the LAST WILL oposing Emperor Joker’s will, Batman was the second and Hal was the third.

(We’ve seen a questionable feat of him lifting a minature multiverse, and punching planets. All strength feats. He might as well be the Hulk. If the Hulk could move fast and fly, we’d have Superman). It seems to be the Thor side has been soundly winning this debate. Personally, I don’t think Thor could beat the Green Lantern either.

That my friend, is because, you are a SUPERMAN hatter and a GL lover.

“GL is on the same level as heralds of Galactus like the Surfer”

Are you aware, that according to Stan Lee. Thor is more powerful than Silver Surfer?
Everybody agrees that GL is not a powerful as Silver Surfer, so for you to claim that GL is more powerful than Thor it shows nothing but fanboyism. Of course you name is “EMERALD MAGUS” and the avatar gives you away

“These are heroes who can do MANY MANY things. Not just move fast and punch. Sorry, Superman supporters, but your hero is overrated”

Wrong again, go back a couple of months ago and see the different scans posted here. There is more than punching power feats. Do I detect a tone of jelousy on a GL fan? That Superman is the one who USUALLY saves the day. mmmm… Maybe

You always claim that you are a DC fan, and you might be right, but also you forgot to mention that you are a Superman hatter.

SUPERMAN VS GL IS A CONTEST OF WILL.
Hal will did not seem to “work” against Superboy Prime, Am I right Magus?

#4 Emerald Magus says:
March 19th, 2010 at 4:00 pm

I have to wonder why you and ShadowHunter constantly bring up Superman or Superboy prime when you’re debating CURRENT SUPERMAN. How did Superman’s will hold up against Parallax? Or Ion?

#5 Xvalkar says:
March 19th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

I don’t know why, but DC always makes Superman look like a chump against other DC heroes. Its like they have to knock him down a peg for some reason. Is anyone else sick of the treatment he gets?

GL should be NOWHERE near the power level of Superman. Neither should Captain Marvel. I’m sorry, Marvel’s feats aren’t all that impressive.

In the non-canon JLA cartoon, they are always making Superman get beat down. I think the writers have some hard on for Batman.

Also, can I point out that I HATE Mon-El.

#6 Alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 4:21 pm

@Emerald Magus

Superman is no match for Parallax or Ion.

Happy?

SUPERMAN VS GL IS A CONTEST OF WILL.

Who has more will?

Let me give you a hint, it starts with “S”

#7 Alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 4:36 pm

@Xvalkar

I’m tired of that too.

Enemies of Superman BORN as Superman enemies

Mr. Myxyzplk
Emperor Joker
Imperex Prime
Gog (as in GOG, not Magog)
Dominus
Doomsday
Bizarro
General Zod

Just the first 5 will give a run for his money to ANYONE

The first two are insanelly powerfull (but basically the same, the difference is that one is a homicidal maniac)

FEATS don’t do the trick, canon crossover don’t do the trick. Shall We use as a meassuring stick Villians?

I think FEW villians compare to Emperor Joker.

#8 ShadowHunter says:
March 19th, 2010 at 7:00 pm

Emerald : Why we are always talking about Superboy Prime? Maybe because Superman could develop the same ammount of powers and he managed to survive in a fight against him…?

#9 Alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 8:11 pm

@Emerald Magus

Just to set the record stright

Zero Hour Parallax vs Superman

Parallax

Sinestro Corps Wars Ion (no lead poison) vs Superman

Ion

#10 Alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

@Xvalkar

I think they always dumb down Superman, because if they don’t, there will be no story.

That is why they say, Superman holds back ALL the time.

They have to create a dramatic story in which Hawkman or Geo Force hold their own against Superman

#11 ShadowHunter says:
March 19th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

Emerald : Parallax all the way since Superman didn’t managed to beat his fears. Only Kyle Rayner and Bruce Wayne managed to. There is more people who did managed to beat their fears but they aren’t worth mentionning.

#12 ShadowHunter says:
March 19th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

Alberto : Who win?
Odin Thor vs The Spectre
Rune King Thor vs The Spectre
WWH vs The Spectre
Silver Surfer vs The Spectre
Galactus vs The Spectre

#13 Alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 12:49 am

@ShadowHunter

The Spectre on all

The “hardest” will be Galactus.

I don’t want to jump here into conclusions, but it has been said over and over that The Spectre is the equivalent of the Living Tribunal.

Actually The Spectre or the LT, can take on all of this guys at the same time and still defeat them with out a sweat.

With Galactus being the one who will actually put a “fight”

On the Marvel pantheon of cosmic beings it goes

1.- The-One-Above-all
2.- The Living Tribunal
3.- The Eternity

Then the rest of the cosmic beings like

Death, Mephisto, Galactus, Celestials, Chaos and Order, Love and Hate and a bunch of others that I don’t remember right now. In no particular order.

I will like to ask, if anyone knows.

What happened with Molecule Man?

I know the Beyonder was retcon (Which I really hate) and now He “was” a Rogue Cosmic Cube (which doesn’t make any sense). On the story of Secret Wars II, Molecule Man, was the second most powerful being in the universe just below the Beyonder.
Since the whole thing was retcon, What happened with Molecule Man? is he still the second most powerful being? What is He doing now?
I have not seen him in a long time.
Anybody care to tell me, what happened?

#14 Alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 1:02 am

I just read A brief description of what happened after the secret wars events

What a bunch of crap. The LT and the Etrenity Above the Beyonder. When We say the Beyonder swat them like flies in Secret Wars.

The Beyonder should have stayed “death” with his universe after Secret Wars II. I think He was a Great “Villian”. Now is just bull.

#15 ShadowHunter says:
March 19th, 2010 at 3:52 am

Alberto : Well, The Spectre is a part of The Presence. There is only one person in the universe that has power on him and it’s only The Presence. Like you, I think Galactus would be his hardest fight. Now :

Ion + Parallax vs The Spectre
Shazam (You give him time) + Doctor Strange vs The Spectre
Captain Marvel + Superman + WWH + Sentry vs The Spectre
Full fed Galactus + Anti Monitor vs The Spectre
Anti Monitor + Imperiex Prime vs The Spectre

#16 Alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 4:17 am

@ShadowHunter

1.- Ion + Parallax vs The Spectre
2.- Shazam (You give him time) + Doctor Strange vs The Spectre
3.- Captain Marvel + Superman + WWH + Sentry vs The Spectre
4.- Full fed Galactus + Anti Monitor vs The Spectre
5.- Anti Monitor + Imperiex Prime vs The Spectre

1.- Zero hour Parallax alone will defeat the Spectre
2.- Spectre
3.- Spectre
4.- Anti-Monitor alone can defeat the Spectre
5.- Same as 4

#17 ShadowHunter says:
March 19th, 2010 at 5:22 am

Alberto : Can you explain me why zero hour Parallax could defeat The Spectre? I don’t know much about him.

#18 Alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 6:28 am

@ShadowHunter

He was powered by the OAN battery and residue energy from the Anti-monitor.

He was able to destroy the only Universe existing at that time, with the whole time line, past, present and future.

He actually defeated the Spectre in Zero Hour.

He was so powerful that He reduced the whole time line into a single point ans was planing into creating different realities.

#19 Alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 6:38 am

His fight against The Spectre weakened him enough to be defeated by the other heroes, but none the less He defeated The Spectre, while being attacked by the others

#20 ShadowHunter says:
March 19th, 2010 at 6:42 am

Alberto : Alright, thank you for the information. I never thought that Parallax could be enought powerful to beat The Spectre!

#21 Jesse says:
March 19th, 2010 at 2:30 pm

@Alberto:

Molecule Man has recently shown his face in Dark Avengers. The full story hasn’t fully played out yet, however it is likely that Norman Osborn will likely persuade Molecule Man into doing his biding.

Marvel has been has stated that Osborn has a very powerful person working for him; this person is so powerful that the threat of using him (or her) is enough to prevent the Cabal (Doom, Loki, The Hood, Emma Frost, and Namor) from crossing Osborn.

PS- Molecule Man tore Sentry’s molecules apart, “killing” him.

#22 Rick says:
March 19th, 2010 at 2:32 pm

LMFAO. Galactus has the ultimate nullifer. Spectre is going down. HARD.

#23 Rick says:
March 19th, 2010 at 2:33 pm

Spectre is far from the Living Tribunal , Spectre’s powers have been rivaled by many in the past.

#24 Javier says:
March 19th, 2010 at 2:37 pm

You know how people say Sentry isn’t that strong cause he didn’t cause a lot of collateral damage, how much damage did Spectre and Cap Marvel cause?

#25 Emerald Magus says:
March 19th, 2010 at 2:42 pm

Didn’t Batman once take out Spectre…

#26 ShadowHunter says:
March 19th, 2010 at 5:13 pm

Rick : Does Galactus have powers from The One Above All? The Spectre has direct power from The Presence and he works for him. His strenght is ilimited and his magic is ilimited too. But, if he use too much power, he’s going to get weaker. Still, Galactus won’t be able to take him out. But yeah, Anti Monitor could take him out.

#27 alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 5:42 pm

@Emerald Magus

I don’t know if Batman took down the Spectre, that might be because it was the Human incarnation of Jim Corrigan, Not the Spectre with the soul of Jim Corrigan, but Jim Corrigan Human body with the power of the Spectre.

@Javier

You may be roght one that one, but the fight of CM vs The Spectre was completelly PIS. Not even the Wizard Shazam is a match for the Spectre.

@Rick

This is where I notice that You might be 14 and only have read comic books for about 2 years.

Let me explain you something; Galactus, as cool as He is (because I do like him) is not the most powerful entity. He has the Ultimate Nullifier, so what?
The Spectre is the Wrath Of GOD!!! is one of the aspects of The Presence. It will be the equivalent of being an aspect of The-One-Above-All in Marvel U

The LT is the counterpart of The Spectre in DC

Galactus is no match for any of those two.

Since I can see that you don’t know much and You are actually learning from what We post here, You should change Your statements into questions by putting a “?” in the end of your sentences.
That way you Don’t look… the way you usually look.

#28 alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 5:47 pm

@Jesse

Thanks for the answer

#29 ShadowHunter says:
March 19th, 2010 at 10:48 pm

Alberto : Alright. Galactus this time.

Galactus vs Superboy Prime
Galactus vs Superboy Prime + PC Supergirl
Galactus vs Imperiex Prime
Galactus vs Anti Monitor
Galactus vs Superman
Galactus vs Emperor Joker
Galactus vs Martian Manhunter + Superman + Wonderwoman
Galactus vs Ion
Galactus vs Zero Hour Parallax

#30 Xvalkar says:
March 19th, 2010 at 12:56 am

I’ll throw in my two cents.

Galactus vs Superboy Prime

Galactus

Galactus vs Superboy Prime + PC Supergirl

Galactus

Galactus vs Imperiex Prime

Galactus

Galactus vs Anti Monitor

Galactus

Galactus vs Superman

This one’s a joke right?

Galactus vs Emperor Joker

Emperor Joker

Galactus vs Martian Manhunter + Superman + Wonderwoman

Galactus

Galactus vs Ion

Galactus

Galactus vs Zero Hour Parallax

Galactus

#31 Xvalkar says:
March 19th, 2010 at 1:00 am

Don’t get me wrong, I love Superman, but against Galactus he has no chance.

I’ve actually been thinking long and hard about my own top ten most powerful superheroes list (I know this isn’t the place for it, but who cares). Here’s a shot at it:

1. Silver Surfer
2. Superman
3. Thor
4. Captain Marvel
5. Sentry
6. Martian Manhunter
7. Green Lantern
8. The Flash
9. Wonder Woman
10. Dr. Strange

What do you guys think of that one? Interested in all opinions.

#32 ShadowHunter says:
March 19th, 2010 at 1:19 am

Xvalkar : I am sorry but Superboy Prime can take out Galactus. And with a PC Supergirl? That would be a quick easy battle.

#33 Alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 5:00 am

@ShadowHunter

1.- Galactus vs Superboy Prime
2.- Galactus vs Superboy Prime + PC Supergirl
3.- Galactus vs Imperiex Prime
4.- Galactus vs Anti Monitor
5.- Galactus vs Superman
6.- Galactus vs Emperor Joker
7.- Galactus vs Martian Manhunter + Superman + Wonderwoman
8.- Galactus vs Ion
9.- Galactus vs Zero Hour Parallax

1.- Galactus

2.- Galactus
at the level of PC Kryptonian, destroying galaxies is nothing, However Superboy Prime or PC Super-Girl, have never show that kind of
Power (as far as I know). PC Supergirl did However damaged the Anti-monitor armor, but still not enough to defeat Galactus

3.- Imperex Prime, Imperex Prime has survived and procuced countless of Big bangs, He is OLDER that Galactus, as crazy as that sounds. Galactus is living his second universe, Imperex Prime already lost the count.

4.- Anti-Monitor, Anti-Monitor was able to destroy entire Universes along with their respective time line. Something that can only be achieved by Galactus, IF He uses the Ultimate Nullifier. (as far as I know)

5.- I wish I could say Superman, but No, Mr. G is the winner

6.- Emperor Joker

7.- Galactus

8.- Galactus

9.- Zero Hour Parallax, He defeated the Spectre and the Time Trapper, He can also do the same things as Anti-Monitor and recreate the Universe(s) any wat He wants.

#34 Alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 5:02 am

3.- Correction “Produced”

9.- Correction “Way”

#35 ShadowHunter says:
March 19th, 2010 at 5:14 am

Alberto : I don’t agree with you on this one. I think Superboy Prime would win. Yes, you will tell me that Galactus is stronger than the Guardians of the Universe but Superboy Prime survived the suicide blast of one of them. He absorbed it’s energy and it powered him up. He even became for the first time an adult and became stronger. He than tortured Mr. Myxyzplk who told him that this energy that he absorbed was only temporary. Even if the guardians are not as strong as Galactus, I think that Superboy Prime would be able to survived a blast from Galactus and maybe absorb it. Superboy Prime was the one who give the last hit to Anti Monitor (When he came back) and threw him in space. Zero Hour Parallax would beat him since Superboy Prime has alot of fears but he did managed to beat Ion, killed 32 GLs, killed a bunch of JLA members, JSA, etc. I even think Superboy Prime could take out The Spectre (With his armor). Anyway, since there has never been such a fight, we can only give our opinions and I think the fight goes for Superboy Prime. For the second one with Galactus against Superboy Prime and PC Supergirl, I don’t really have to argue.

#36 ShadowHunter says:
March 19th, 2010 at 5:20 am

Oh and let me add this.

Galactus vs The whole JSA, JLA, GLs, Sinestro Corps.

P.S. Do you think Mordru could take out Thor?

#37 Reporter says:
March 19th, 2010 at 12:37 pm

@Alberto

Sorry for the late reply.If Clark Kent doesn’t acknowledge DC’s version of Thor, Don’t you think that will give the impression that the Thor(and all other Asgardians) doesn’t exist in the DC Universe?Don’t you agree?

#38 Alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 2:04 pm

@Reporter

They are canon fodder characters. Not even secondary characters, but canon fodder characters.

They are pretty much non-existent in the DC U.

#39 Alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 3:15 pm

@ShadowHunter

If you will have tell me PC Superman vs Galactus, I will have probably go with PC Superman. But PC Superman vs Galactus is such a hard choice.

Superboy Prime, has been injured by only 3 beings
a Guardian, a Clone and himself.

The fact that He was injured by a clone of Superman, will bring him down on the list, Plus Prime is not as powerful as Anti-monitor.

In the sinestro corps war, Prime was the one who delivered the final blow to Anti-Monitor, but Anti-Monitor was not fully reborn, and not even close to full power or Crisis on Infinite Earths power level.

Anti-Monitor was being attacked by 10 guardians and He was also weakened by a explosion that could destroy the Galaxy.
The Anti-Monitor that We saw in the Sinestro Corps war is not even close to the one in Crisis on Infinite Earths.

PC Supergirl was not as powerful as PC Superman.

Prime is a PC kryptonian, but he has never displayed the power levels of a PC Superman, We assume he is at PC level because He is FACT a PC Kryptonian, but from an alternative reality.

In Crisis on infinite earths He was probably the weakest of all of the Supermen. But when He met Superman for the first time, he was shown able to keep up in speed with Superman.
By this Time Superman could not move anymore between dimensions, because there was no more time stream around, because of the Anti-Monitor.

Is not clear if Prime could do the same.

Prime has Retcon producing punches, He is really strong, but I don’t think He can defeat Galactus, unless We are talking about the Galactus We are used to see in Marvel Comics, which is usually hungry Galactus, Then Prime will win. But not against Full power Galactus.

Galactus vs The whole JSA, JLA, GLs, Sinestro Corps?

JSA, JLA, GLs, Sinestro Corps

Depending on the Galactus incarnation

#40 ShadowHunter says:
March 19th, 2010 at 4:02 pm

Alberto : What about the blast he absorbed that powered him up? Still, it’s an incredible feat. It powered up at some point that he became an adult for a while.

If I good remember, after Superboy Prime threw Anti Monitor into space, he had to deal with the JLA, JSA, GLs, Sinestro Corps and the Guardians. If Superboy Prime is the weakest of the PC Superman, I really wonder how powerfull a real one is. A real one could take out anyone.

Let’s see what you think about those fights.

Superboy Prime vs Silver Surfer
Superboy Prime vs Mordru
Superboy Prime vs Thor
Superboy Prime vs Odin Thor
Superboy Prime vs Hulk
Superboy Prime vs WWH
Superboy Prime vs Sentry
Superboy Prime vs Shazam
Superboy Prime vs Thanos (Without the Infinity Gauntlet).

#41 ShadowHunter says:
March 19th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

Alberto : About the clone. If I good remember, he only hit him with his heat vision. Prime was pissed that he hitted his S mark on his chest. Have he done more damage to him?

One thing is sure. Prime is only afraid of one group of person. The Flash family. But still, like he always says : I always come back.

#42 alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 5:48 am

@ShadowHunter

You think a PC Superman was scary?

PC Superman was “afraid” of PC Darkseid.

PC Superman, was insanelly powerful.

When Prime dealt with the JLA, JSA, GLs, Sinestro Corps and the Guardians, He was not beign attacked by all of them at the same time.

But He did however withstand the attack of 3 guarians at the same time.

on my pick

Superboy Prime vs Silver Surfer
PRIME
Superboy Prime vs Mordru
PRIME
Superboy Prime vs Thor
PRIME
Superboy Prime vs Odin Thor
Current OF THOR or Full OF Thor? Current, PRIME WINS
Superboy Prime vs Hulk
PRIME
Superboy Prime vs WWH
PRIME
Superboy Prime vs Sentry
PRIME
Superboy Prime vs Shazam
PRIME
Superboy Prime vs Thanos
Avatar Thanos? PRIME WINS

#43 alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 6:29 am

@Xvalkar

1. Silver Surfer
2. Superman
3. Thor
4. Captain Marvel
5. Sentry
6. Martian Manhunter
7. Green Lantern
8. The Flash
9. Wonder Woman
10. Dr. Strange

I like your list, and I could agree to it, but there is something that We have to take into account.

Silver Sufer and Thor are both Marvel property. In the Marvel Universe, it was intended for Thor to be more powerful than Silver Surfer, However, everytime We see Silver Surfer feats, They look far better than Thor feats, But every time they fight, they throw out everything We know and somehow, someway Thor is more Powerful.
In this instance, We have to take into account the intention and desire of the creators, which is to say, that Thor is more powerful than Silver Surfer.

No matter how much Powerful the SS looks compared to Thor. Thor is more powerful than the SS.
Call it PIS, or anything you want, The intention of the creator has priority in this matter. Until the creators tell us otherwise.

I can see the SS more powerful that Superman, However, just because this little fact, I cannot put him above Thor or Superman. Because of the intention of the creator(s) of the characters.

With Superman, This rule does not apply, because He belongs to another universe. It will apply however, with fictional characters of Superman’s own Universe. Like the Spectre, being all powerful, or Batman being the most dangerous Human.

This is my list

1. Superman
2. Thor (Current plot device OF NOT Full OF)
3. Silver Surfer
4. Green Lantern (Hal or Kyle)
5. Sentry
6. Captain Marvel (DC)
7. Martian Manhunter
8. Genis-Vell
9. The Flash (This guy is scary as hell, he reacts in a femto-second!!!)
10. Dr. Strange

Worth mentioning 4 of this guys are Justice Leaguers.

I also have a herd time trying to incorporate Firestorm, but in the end his problem with his comtainment suit, make me left him out. I also was not sure about Genis-Vell, but he got a good fight against the Sentry
I also think, That Hal or Kyle have more will power than Captain Marvel and they have better feats than Cap.

#44 alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 7:00 am

mmmm come to think of it, Hulk should be somewhere arround here,but his power depends on his mood. He has to get there, in order to be here, if you know what I mean

#45 Tony says:
March 19th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

Thor wins easily. Next.

#46 ShadowHunter says:
March 19th, 2010 at 5:52 pm

Tony : Thor wins against who? Green Arrow?

#47 Alberto says:
March 19th, 2010 at 1:05 am

@Nick

I’m still waiting for those scans of Thor creating Black holes and destroying planets with his punches, not Mjolnir. Where are they?