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The Mighty Thor and Superman are the heavy-hitters of Marvel and DC respectively, each of them arguably the most powerful hero in their respective universes. So its natural that this is without question the most discussed versus debate amongst comic book fans. No other versus battle comes close to being talked about as much than this one. Try to start a “Superman vs Thor” thread on any forum and the first response is sure to be: “Not this again”.

Some of you may remember our “Top 10 Most Powerful Superheroes” list that we released a while back, where we made the controversial claim that Thor was the most powerful superhero of all time (Superman coming in at number three on that list). Months later we are still receiving emails either agreeing with us, or flaming us for that decision. Many fans cite Superman’s speed as the deciding factor in any fight between the two behemoths. Other emails claim that Thor’s magical powers would be enough to stop the man of steel in his tracks. So, the natural question is, do we still stand by our claim that Thor is more powerful than Superman? The answer is still “yes.” In this article we’ll break down the seven most common arguments and give you our take on them.

1. Super Strength

The claim has often been made that Superman is stronger than Thor. Many times on versus forums threads this claim is accepted as a given by both sides of the debate. We don’t concede that the Man of Steel is physically stronger than the god of thunder though. Thor has performed feats such as lifting the World Serpent, and once hurled the Odinsword, an enormous mystical blade, through a Celestial! Thor has also single-handedly matched the strength of the Hulk on numerous occasions (the Marvel Universe’s strongest character). Not only that but Thor is capable of entering into a state known as the “Warrior’s Madness”, which will temporarily increase his strength tenfold. Some of these feats have no true equivalent in the DC universe. We think at the very least, the two character’s physical strength is equal.

2 . Super Speed

This is Superman’s one true advantage in this fight. Superman is fast. We’re talking warp speed fast. We’re talking once around the entire planet and back before you can blink fast. You could easily make the argument that Thor would be lucky if he even saw Superman before he got pounded. But is Thor as slow as everyone seems to think? Unknown to many DC fanboys Thor can throw his hammer at the speed of light (See Thor#140, Thor#274). He can also swing it at TWICE the speed of light (Journey Into Mystery#102). In Thor -#393- it’s established that the speed of Thor’s hammer TRANSCENDS both TIME & SPACE. In addition Thor can appear anywhere across the Universe or other dimensions in just seconds (see- FF#339, and Thor#166). And, most importantly, Thor could, visually, detect objects that move at fantastic speeds (this happened when Thor was the target of artillery fire- see Invaders#33- and Avengers-#281- when he saw the speedy Hermes. And yes, I do need a life). Now if we accept that Superman can move at 99% of the speed of light, and that Thor can swing his hammer at twice the speed of light, it stands to reason that big blue is in some trouble. It’s true that Thor doesn’t use his super speed abilities often, but how many times have you seen Superman not use his super speed when he should have?

3. Stanima

Who can take more punishment, Thor or Superman? This is a difficult question. Thor has withstood a blast from Asgardian Destroyer. Superman has withstood a direct hit from a nuclear bomb. Thor has taken everything the Hulk could dish out. Thor also once took a glancing hit by a Doomsday Bomb that was capable of destroying an entire planet, and soon after that explosion he fell from space (leaving a crater miles wide) to a planet called Pangoria-see Thor#387. Thor has also taken everything that Gladiator (an arguably more powerful version of Superman) could dish out. Both characters have come back from the dead a couple of times. In my mind this one is a draw. Both characters have approximately the same stanima. The difference is Superman has weaknesses (i.e. Kryptonite, Magic, and the fact he is powerless without yellow sunlight) whereas Thor pretty much doesn’t.

4. Magic

Even the most diehard Superman fan would concede that Thor’s magical abilities would be an advantage for Thor. First, I would like to note that just because an opponent can wield magic, it in no way guarantees a win over the last son of Krypton. Superman has defeated countless magic users in the past, and so I have no illusions that just because Thor has magic powers and a magic hammer that he would automatically own Superman. That being said magic is just as lethal against Supes as kryptonite. Superman has no defense against it, and it can affect him greatly. Superman getting pounded by Mjolnir is the same as you and me getting pounded by a normal hammer. And consider the guy who’s swinging it. It’s Thor. The god of thunder. Not only that, but Thor’s lightning is magical too. Remember that just a single lightning bolt is equivalent to 15,000,000 volts of electricity and could travel over 224,000 miles an hour. The clear advantage here goes to Thor.

5. Super Powers

Before Thor inherited the Odinforce, the super powers of these two heroes were a little more even. Now there is absolutely no contest. Thor has a clear edge over Superman here. His magical hammer gives Thor the ability to control the weather, the ability to fly; energy projection and absorption; dimensional apertures; matter manipulation, as well as the most powerful of his offensive powers: the God Blast, and the Anti-Force. Superman is no push over in this department either, with the already mentioned super strength, super speed, as well as heat vision, x-ray vision, enhanced senses, and the ability to blow hurricane force winds from his mouth. But what is that compared to being able to summon an actual hurricane? Not only that but with the Odinforce Thor was then capable of feats such as reconstructing the Earth’s Moon,willing the Asgardian monster Mangog into nothingness, and by focusing his entire power into a hammer throw that even decapitated a Desak-occupied Asgardian Destroyer. Having accepted his heritage as the son of the earth goddess Gaea, he has recently been shown to be capable of opening chasms in the earth itself, and who knows what other abilities he’ll be displaying now that he’s done that.

6. Superman beat Thor in the Avengers / DC Crossover

I don’t want to spend much time on this one. Most fans of comics know how much weight we should give to crossovers. Besides, I personally have no doubt that Superman would beat Galactus in a crossover. He’s DC’s flagship character after all. Enough said on that one.

7. Thor has Thousands of Years of Combat Experience

This is a common argument used by Thor fans to claim that Thor would take down Superman. It seems fairly obvious. If I somehow gained super powers and a Viking Warrior somehow gained the exact same or nearly equivalent powers, most people would put their money on the Viking if we fought each other. Now imagine the Viking warrior was thousands of years older than me, and had been using his powers for all those thousands of years to battle trolls, giants, demons, robots, aliens, and gods, and I have only been using my powers for 20-30 years. It seems clear to me that the Viking Warrior god has a clear cut advantage over me in a fight. Again advantage Thor.

It seems obvious to me that Thor has a clear advantage over Superman in a fight. I don’t think that Thor is so powerful that there is no way that Superman could ever defeat him. But I believe that the majority of the time Thor would beat Superman in a one on one fight, assuming its not a fight to the death. If it is a fight to the death, then I think Thor would almost invariably win. So there you have it, the definitive answer to one of the most talked about and controversial debates in comic book nerdom. Brought to you by your pals at Old-Wizard.com.

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2,308 Comments

#1 ShadowHunter says:
March 14th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

Pete : Again Pete. Your only weapon to defend Thor is your language? That’s way too funny. You think Delta only have that debate in mind? No.

#2 General Grievous says:
March 14th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

Basically, the only thing the Superman side has going for it are the “feats” from Delta, all of which he gave us were leaving out critical information or were PIS. And Alberto, who is a broken English version of Delta who doesn’t have any arguments of his own.

The only thing you need to know is that Superman is vulnerable to magic. Thor is basically a magical version of Superman with a magic hammer and about hundred more powers than Superman. Thor wins. Case closed.

#3 ShadowHunter says:
March 14th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

Wow. You can’t read. Go to school kid. We said that Superman survived The Imperiex Prime blast. A blast that killed Doomsday and a blast that is way stronger than Odin.

#4 Desperado says:
March 14th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

ShadowHunter:
Well, an Imperiex blast might be more powerful than a blast from Odin (not by TOO much), but take in the fact that Odin’s power is also magical in nature whereas Imperix’s is not. It other words, Odin’s blast would have a much more devastating effect on someone like Superman. Though, some may argue that Superman has built a certain amount of tolerance for magic, magic should probably still have some effect on him. In other words, if magic to him is like bullets for us, than it’d be more like a flak jacket, he still gets knocked around some, but not as much as he used to. Still, he’s definitely going to feel it.

#5 ShadowHunter says:
March 14th, 2010 at 10:24 pm

Okay, Superman isn’t weaknened by Magic. It’s only that he don’t have any ”resistance” to it. That means, the magic blasts are hitting him. BUT, since Superman become way stronger than he was before, he certainly gained a kind of resistance to it just like he did for kryptonite and red sun rads. Like I said, Superman is becoming again a PC Superman.

#6 SonOfOdin says:
March 14th, 2010 at 10:59 pm

Hahahaha Imperiex blast more powerful then Odin. Seriously where do you people come up with this stuff. What makes you claim such a statement, and most of all how does that have to do with Thor. And you Superman lovers can say whatever you want about Superman building up a tolerance to magic(pure speculation I might add, because their is no such statement by D.C. or Superman that he is no longer vulnerable to magic), it doesn’t change the fact that Thor is packing a CRAP load of magic, and any level of vulnerability to his magic is going to be HUGE weakness.

And for those of you who are screaming for Thor fans to respond, please understand that man of us have been on this forum for months(myself about seven months) and I’m done wasting time talking about something that is obvious to most. You guys are not saying anything new, so what is the point in responding?

#7 alejandro says:
March 14th, 2010 at 11:04 pm

its seem who ever mad this article is a thor fan boy while im ready this its seem its all about thor not “thor and superman” just thor wtf that aint right

#8 Desperado says:
March 14th, 2010 at 11:12 pm

Well, that’s what I’m saying. He has a growing resistance to magic and it’d be like a “flak jacket” defense for him as a flak jacket would be a defense from bullets for us in a way that it isn’t fatal, it doesn’t hurt as much, but we still feel it.

However, I have heard the claims that he does have a magical resistance, but unless I’ve missed the scan, no one has provided a clear showing. So, if someone could provide a scan of the most recent display of his tolerance for it, that would really be helpful.

#9 Alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 12:08 am

Well said Son Of Odin

We are preaching to the deaf

Not like General wasn’t prove wrong in broken english, but the fact that He did not answer any of the points given to him and he was also proven wrong in his “critical information” topic and his Galactus full of Hyperboles

THANKFULLY this guys already fougth and one of the major reasons of the figth was to answer once and for all, who was better, and probably the only time this guys are going to fight guess who won!!!

I don’t give a flying fuck if you guys think is canon or not, on Busiek’s eyes (who is a marvel fan and an EXPERT unlike many of you BTW) SUPERMAN WINS!

So there. Yeah, yeah, I know the venom thing. I don’t give a flying fuck about that one either.
Superman win over Thor is 1000 sweeter than his “Defeat” at the hands of venom.

1,000 times sweeter

Superman lets go and lift the multiverse inside a book!!!

#10 Alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 12:13 am

and just to quote DictatorBB

“Thou shall never lifteth my Hammer… Unless no Gravity.”

#11 Alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 12:23 am

And to all of the Superman fans

Take any advice, examples and evidence only verbaly from SonOfOdin. After all, you can tell by his name that He is NOT biased and a Thor Fanboy.

If He says that the Odin’s Blast is stronger than an Imperex Blast or an Imp Blast, believe it. HE IS NOT A BIASED FAN BOY WHO IS NOT OBJECTIVE, after all He reads from both companies and only pick his name randomly, Unlike real fanboys

#12 ShadowHunter says:
March 14th, 2010 at 12:30 am

SonOfOdin : For that, Thor must use his Odin Force (that takes a while to use) and catch Superman (Who’s way faster than Thor) with his blast. And yes, I still belive that Imperiex Blast is still most powerful than Odin. Doomsday (who has been created to kill and survive and comes back stronger after each time he died) got killed and reduced to a pile of ashes by Imperiex Prime blast.

#13 Desperado says:
March 14th, 2010 at 12:30 am

Okay, just to set the record straight, Mjlonir is not physically heavy, but magically. And as it goes, you have to be worthy to lift it and Rulk was definitely not worthy. The magical enchantment of Mjlonir was put on by Odin, but Odin died which might have removed the enchantment. If Odin was still alive and the enchantment still active, Rulk would not have been able lift it. GRAVITY DOES NOT AFFECT THE HAMMER’S MAGICAL PROPERTIES. The comic run was god-awful, anyways.

#14 ShadowHunter says:
March 14th, 2010 at 12:32 am

Why are you posting that here?

#15 Alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 12:34 am

@Desperado

Is there any proff of the Hammer beign unliftable in zero gravity???

Issue # please and scans

#16 Alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 12:38 am

@Desperado

Wich is kind of weird, because at zero gravity there is no UP or DOWN, so no lift or drop can be made at zero gravity.

But, hey, is fantasy so anything can happen, but I want to see it.

Mjolnir unliftable at zero gravity

#17 Desperado says:
March 14th, 2010 at 12:52 am

I don’t have a scan or issue number to prove my point, but if Mjolnir lives up to its lore, then it shouldn’t be wielded by anyone not worthy. If Mjolnir was just left on the ground, it would only be moved by someone worthy, i.e. Captain America, or BRB. In space, the enchantment shouldn’t be any different. Only someone worthy (as defined by Odin) should be able to lift or wield it. Just because it’s in space, it doesn’t mean the enchantment is disabled. I would assume that the hammer would just be free floating or just floating still, and wouldn’t budge by the unworthy.

#18 Desperado says:
March 14th, 2010 at 1:08 am

But then again, who’s more worthy to lift Mjolnir more than Deadpool!?
http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/5168/deadpool37p11smaller3pn4go.jpg

#19 Alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 1:11 am

@Desperado

Well is a nice theory and everything, but since all the time everybody is asking the Superman side for proof, Your explination lacks evidence as a valid point.

I would assume that Superman, The Martian Man Hunter, Wonder Woman, Goku, Mario and Luigi can lift the Hammer because they are worthy.

Does that proofs anything? No, becasue I’m assuming

So it stays:

“Thou shall never lifteth my Hammer… Unless no Gravity.”

#20 Alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 1:12 am

@Desperado

Hahahahahaha that was very funny, lol

#21 Alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 1:14 am

37 gorditas and some chips

#22 Desperado says:
March 14th, 2010 at 1:20 am

I’ve never actually seen someone unworthy lift the hammer. But then again, I’m not trying to argue the fact that you have to be worthy to lift it, but the fact that gravity, or lack there of, should have any affect on the hammer’s enchantment.

And if I recall, in the crossover, Superman couldn’t lift the hammer at first, and I think the enchantment was lifted for a while. Correct me if I’m wrong.
And Alberto, you shouldn’t really listen to the all of these broken english comments. After all, English, as you’ve said, is not your first language, and most people on here don’t know more than one tongue.

#23 alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 1:49 am

@Desperado

Thanks man. I actually don’t mind, after all it makes me more cautious of what I have to say.

and usually when they bring the english argument is because they are cornered and have nothing elso to say, so that is actually a sign of who is making the point.

But anyway Desperado, Thaks for the scan, it was really funny and I loved it

37 gorditas y unas papitas

#24 alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 4:27 am

@Pete

Hahahahahahahaha Pete, you are funny

lets see. You did not answer the following:

Adam Warlock
The soul gem is the GATEWAY to an idyllic pocket-universe

This completelly destroys your argument of comparing Adam Warlock Gem souls and Superman lifting the book

You said:

Lifting the multiverse is one time Superman’s feat and say that is not consistent with the character

I ASK TO YOU AND ANYONE AGAIN

If a guy who can contain a mini black, then survive and scape a double black hole, then patch a tear in reality, then shatter time and space with his punches, How come He will not be able to lift a book with the multiverse inside?

How is this feat inconsistent to what Superman has done in recent years?!

CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN ME

and your other point

“Marvel sells more”

Please kid! really. Do I look like I give a shit about who sells more comics?

Actually, is there anything important that you have shown here?

#25 ShadowHunter says:
March 14th, 2010 at 4:36 am

For me, DC got the strongest Superheroes (The Spectre, Ion, Superman) and the strongest villains (Emperor Joker, Krona, Anti-Monitor).

#26 alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 4:40 am

@ShadowHunter

Of course they are stronger, the only one I remember in Marvel with DC POWER LEVEL was the Beyonder.

#27 ShadowHunter says:
March 14th, 2010 at 4:41 am

For the Beyonder, DC got The Presence.

#28 alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 4:50 am

Actually the equivalent of the Presence will be THE-ONE-ABOVE-ALL

The Beyonder will be more like Emperor Joker or and 5th dimension Imp going rogue

#29 ShadowHunter says:
March 14th, 2010 at 6:31 am

Alberto : Oh yeah, I forgot THe One Above All, sorry.

#30 ShadowHunter says:
March 14th, 2010 at 4:35 pm

Alberto : Do you think Superman could get controled by a symbiote (like Venom, Carnage, etc..) ?

#31 Ken says:
March 14th, 2010 at 6:23 pm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/supermanspidey.jpg

If Spiderman can do this to Superman, Superman loses to Thor hard.

#32 Brüno says:
March 14th, 2010 at 12:17 am

While I’m a big fan of Thor, I must add that he does have a weakness. And it’s a big one. Hubris. Thor greatest weakness is really himself.

He likes to fight. He enjoys the heat of the battle. And he will usually spur an easy win like the one he could have against Superman. That is why Thor jas never defeated the Hulk. How hard would it be for him to teleport the Hulk into the center of the Sun or just throw him into space? But he likes fighting the Hulk and he wants to fight him at his top strength.

I believe that, if Superman were to try some cheap trick like charging at superspeed from 10km away trying to catch Thor offguard, Thor’s god-like senses would perceive Superman from afar and Thor would send a magical lightning to drop Superman before he even touched him. And while Superman is faster than a Speeding Bullet, he is not faster than Lightning (Billy Batson has showned that more than once).

Now, if Superman came to blows with Thor, say, in a sportly matter, I’m inclined to believe Thor might even drop Mjolnir and play down some of his Odin-powers just to make the fight more fair. In which point he would just be a very skilled super-strong fighter. That would be a very enjoyable battle.

I can even imagine Superman getting increasingly angry at him “Are you mad? Look at this destruction? How can you be smiling at this?”

#33 alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 1:26 am

@KEN

Go and play with Barbie

That is a Red Sun rediated Spiderman against a Pre-Crisis Superman in a crossover classic where the story was in a “made up” world, where Marvel and DC coexisted together.

Who do you want impress?

Barbie?

#34 alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 1:28 am

@ShadowHunter

I don’t know, I guess not

Superman has a great will, He has been controled before, but he has regained control eventually.

I don’t think so, maybe for a while, but not forever

#35 alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 1:34 am

@Brüno

You know Superman moves at more than 1,000 times the speed of light?

If the last time you read a Superman comic was Kingdom Come or 5 years ago. I will advice you to, pick some new copies of Superman and then post. Otherwise you are going to end up like many guys did before you.

Thanks for sharing your take on the fight

#36 ShadowHunter says:
March 14th, 2010 at 4:32 pm

Alberto : Because a Venom Superman would be way too strong… or even Carnage..

#37 Chris says:
March 14th, 2010 at 6:27 pm

One hit from Thor is all it would take to put Superman down. Thor’s hammer is MAGIC. Superman is weak to MAGIC. Thor’s hammer hitting Superman is like a normal warhammer hitting a normal human. Game over. Great article.

#38 Alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 7:04 pm

@Chris

Yaaaaaawn!

#39 Alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

@ShadowHunter

it could be interesting

#40 ShadowHunter says:
March 14th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

Chris : Game over for YOU. Never saw someone as dumb as you are. Go to school and learn how to read, kid.

#41 Jesse says:
March 14th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

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1000 times the speed of light

There is no limit to the imagination– but isn’t writing a “Superman” comic and having him move at 1000 times the speed of light a bit childish. It just seems so contrived– as if writers were bored and said “Superman is SO SUPER that not only can he move faster than light, BUT HE’S 1000 times faster than light!”

You know whats wierd, that I’m always more interested in the upper tier (in terms of power level) superheroes in comics, yet I despise when writers push a character’s abilities too far for the sake of doing something new.

How far is too far? Well even for DC, where the power scales are greater than Marvel’s, a character like Superman (silver age, all-star, and current) ruins the whole DC picture. As Alberto has pointed out, one way to counter this is to provide our protagonists with stronger villians (ala DBZ stlye). Come on though, for the same reason that DBZ is better than GT (although there are actually a few reasons), there is a believable limit to the degree of power escalation we can see.

By the time GT came around, the villians were so powerful that they could instantaneously vaporize the Earth, Solar Systems, etc. So why didn’t they? Well its because thats not entertaining and the show would end. Even the dynamic of fantasy should follow the bounds of logic– when this fails to happen, we the consumers are left with the poor product.

I’m not claiming to know more than the published professionals who write the comics, although I am a fiction/ non fiction writer myself, I do however know that the MOST IMPORTANT facet in constructing a “universe” (characters, environment, and the interactions between the two) is to induce “believability” in the reader. Once the rules have been established, DON’T BREAK THEM.

“Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound”

has become

“1000 times faster than the speed of light, more powerful than a black hole, able to fly across the galaxy in seconds”

Although one should acknowledge what is hyperbole and what isn’t, it would be foolish to ignore just how much more powerful Superman has become since his introduction.

Superman isn’t the only character to suffer from absurd power growth, although its my belief that his case is the most prominent. At least Thor’s Odin Force could be gained and or taken/given away– it was a plot tool, one that writers knew made him too powerful.

In the end, its all about balance. Balance in a character and balance in the universe. Seriously, given some of Superman’s feats, there is absolutly, positively no conflict that he can’t solve. In fact, if Superman can move, fight, read, cook, clean, and play heroclix at 1000 times the speed of light, he should literally be just about everywhere on Earth at the same time, and there would be no conflict. This makes the existence of the other DC characters (especially the Earth based heroes) pointless.

#42 ShadowHunter says:
March 14th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

Jesse : Superman is THE Superhero. You can’t give him low abilities. They already created a Superhero known of everyone without special abilities : Batman. The balance? Yeah DC has to create way stronger villains : Emperor Joker, Anti-Monitor, Imperiex Prime, Superboy Prime, Krona, Darkseid (even if he’s not that strong), Asmodel, Lucifer, etc…).
The existence of the other DC characters aren’t pointless, they are all in the same team, the JLA. Who scared the most Superboy Prime? Not Superman. The Flash did! Yes, The Flash scared a PC Kryptonian. Martian Manhunter is weak? God, you really don’t know him. Sometimes, I might even think he’s stronger thant Superman. He has incredible abilities. Batman, he’s the brain of the team. Always looking for a fight and helping the other member of the team to get out of trouble. What’s the Watchtower? He used his money to build it.

If you can understand what is a team, you really don’t get the point of DC by making the JLA. The JLA was made to show that even a Superhero like Superman need a team to fight his ennemies. The GL aren’t all members of the JLA but still, they are helping eachother most of the time. That’s called respect and allies.

#43 General Grievous says:
March 14th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

Jesse:

That is true to an extent. That is also why Marvel is so much more popular than DC. (by a factor of about 3 to 1…and that’s only comics. Look at the movies and cartoons). At the same time you can’t believe all the propaganda you hear from the Superman fanboys on this site. Most of the feats they show are either one time things, not in continuity, hyperbole, or are leaving out very critical information. This is the main reason for Delta being scared off the site. Once I pointed out his bullshit, he was gone. Superman simply doesn’t have the power Delta and Alberto claim. Superman is not a cosmic entity on the level of Galactus. He has weaknesses (K, red sunlight, and Magic). He is not faster than the Flash (that is a FACT). In fact, if you look at some of Emerald Magus’s scans from earlier, Superman isn’t even as fast as GL!!! (especially the one showing GL catching the Flash while Superman couldn’t).

#44 ShadowHunter says:
March 14th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

General : How old are you, just for fun? 10? Tell me. I want to know. Hey, Superman is far away from being a god but he can still kick Thor ass (Thor has Odin force considered as a god power). That’s funny how a normal Kryptonian can kick ass of a guy with Cosmic power. Go cry somewhere else kiddo. We already prooved you wrong with scans. I don’t even remember you ever posting one. Delta isn’t as dumb as you are. He has a life. Not like you. You must be a WoW player too. Your funny. For the weaknesses, Alberto reposted a scan showing where you can put his weaknesses, kid. Find new things to say.

#45 General Grievous says:
March 14th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

Misspelled words and bad grammar in ShadowHunter’s last post:

“he can still kick Thor ass”

“(Thor has Odin force considered as a god power)”

“how a normal Kryptonian can kick ass of a guy with Cosmic power”

“prooved”

“Your funny.”

Not bad for one paragraph. Delta has a life? Since when? Have you seen the size of his comments? This site was his life until I scared the shit out of him.

#46 ShadowHunter says:
March 14th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

General : If someone doesn’t have a life here, it’s really you. You say I have a bad grammar?

#47 General Grievous says:
March 14th, 2010 at 8:00 pm

Bad? No. You just sound like a 6 year old who’s first language isn’t English.

#48 Alberto says:
March 14th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

@Jesse

Nice writing

I actually don’t have a problem with Superman doing all those crazy things, after all is fiction. and We read comics to get inside a fantasy world where everything is possible. Not the everyday normal life, but the impossible.

This forum is not about if the other characters of DC are pointless, Which is not the case, because Batman, GL and Flash are pretty good, Flash and Gl are also really powerful, In reality Flash should not even have enemies other than speedsters, but we get entertained when He is fighting Captain Cold, the writter give us a god plot and We just read it, if We like it, if not, then We don’t read it and Then it becomes a problem for the writter to sell the story.

This forum is about Superman vs Thor and if Superman flights at 1,000 the speed of light because he is insanelly or ridiculouslly powerful, oh well!!! Is Superman vs Thor after all.

Not story vs story

And just let me remind you that the Superman Comics sell more that Thor comics, BY SINGLE TITLE!

If Marvel sells more all the time, is not because of Thor or the avengers.

Is because X titles, which are a really succesfull franchise. Maybe The other titles should look into making crazy stories so the other titles can catch up.

One more thing

Superman got revamped, because He was to hard to write, not because his sales went down

He got killed to boost up th sales, his sales went down after crisis and byrne, because he was a weakling compared to other and the tittle of SUPER seem to belong to other heroes, who where at the time stronger than Superman. Now there is a reason to call him Super again, because he is stonger than Gods

#49 Jesse says:
March 14th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

@Shadow Hunter:

You ignore (or perhaps choose not to comment on) my highlighted point that once the limits of what a character can do are pushed, the stories tend to become less believable.

The less human a character becomes, (yes I know superman or martian manhunter are not human to begin with, however the medium through which they engage is the human race), the further the shift from logic. The further the shift from logic, the poorer the product.

Please just read what I wrote in my earlier post about a villian being so powerful that he could vaporize earth at 1000 times the speed of light. Why hasn’t that happened? Is it because Superman reacted at an even faster speed and stopped him? No, because thats simply absurd.

So now we have a situation where a villian could easily destroy Earth but “chooses not to?” Yawn. Thats as bad as the steriotypical villian who is about to kill the hero but instead decides to waste time telling him all about his evil plan– bad writing.

#50 ShadowHunter says:
March 14th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

General Grievous : Alright, have fun translating.

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