Comic Book Preview: Hulk #5

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#1 Blackhatseo says:
November 20th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

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#2 Gustavo says:
November 20th, 2009 at 11:10 am

Well, I completely agreed with you. I´ve been a long time fan of Thor and I have every single issue from JIM#83 so, I´m pissed just to see how disrespectful are the new writers with the caracter. They always try to please the fans of his own comic book so they can sell more!! And, in the Hulk comic books, the writers always want to demostrate that the Hulk is the strongest character in the MU. But they forget (or just don´t care) about the powers of the other heroes. In the case of Hulk vs Thor fights, they always have the two hiting each other with their fists, forgeting about all the other powers that Thor has.

#3 Lee King says:
November 20th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

I agree with you on the fact of knocking out a Being who can see into the future(The Watcher). But as for the Hulk, I don’t believe you have a full grasp of his make-up, his history and most of all his potential which is preceding the first of the afore mentioned qualities,attributes/mutations that plague this characters existence in the Marvel Universe. Secondly, Thor’s character has been complicated, as future issues will become harder and harder to write and still incorporate a reasonable measure of believability in direct correlation with his history and yet to be future with is not too off sync with the present plot”We all knew Ragnarok would come one day”. Let’s see where it goes and enjoy the ride along the way before we get too old to dream and have to leave it to the next generation of wide-eye enthusiasts .
Yours Truly, Lee King

#4 old-wizard.com says:
November 20th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

“But they forget (or just don´t care) about the powers of the other heroes. In the case of Hulk vs Thor fights, they always have the two hiting each other with their fists, forgeting about all the other powers that Thor has.”

Fantastic point.

#5 garbage article says:
November 20th, 2009 at 12:41 am

Another stupid article. The original poster guy didn’t even read the fucking comic yet he’s posting bullshit about the comic.

Go fuck yourself “old-wizard.com” and quit writing this idiotic trash. Get off the internet.

#6 Alex says:
November 20th, 2009 at 1:53 am

Learn to read. That’s why its called a PREVIEW, jackass.

#7 Fabio says:
November 20th, 2009 at 1:59 am

Alex hit the nail on the head there. Garbage Article’s comment might just be the dumbest comment I’ve ever read on any blog post…EVER.

#8 godless sodomite says:
November 20th, 2009 at 12:11 am

This “Rulk” or Red Hulk is a classic doomsday type villain whose powers are at or above the thor/sentry class level. In this ish, he will thoroughly embarrass Thor (as never before!) and establish himself as a worthy supervillain who deserves main event status in the near future.

Granted, there are absurd elements (knocking out the watcher) but the series is heavily tongue-in-cheek. Popcorny fun should not be misread as something deep or grave – it is meant to be enjoyed as entertainment.

Hopefully Loeb will present us a thoroughly plausible explanation of the Red Hulk’s origins in the near future.

#9 Thomp says:
November 20th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

As a huge fan of hulk, I do not enjoy this arc so far. Loeb does quite some nosense here.

Looking at previous combats, I can be shure that old green hulk has the upper hand, when we talk about old thor.

You just have to see the existing duels(616 continuity) and it’s crystal clear.

But I think Loeb has gone too far…the watcher? Thor with odinforce? WTF?

There is no sense at all! This red hulk is too powerful and has no background yet.

But I can’t forget to talk about this “old-wizard” comentary.

You said quite some shit here…lots of contradictions…

JMS is a great writer, PAK and LOEB are not….WTF?

I agree on Loeb, but PAK??

see how you justify that thor should win…

“This new Thor has taken down the Asgardian Destroyer. If he gets beaten by the Hulk it will be a long time before I pick up a Marvel comic again.”

Well…following logics…new thor took Destroyer down. Red hulk took watcher down.

Who’s more powerful…destroyer or the watcher?!?!

So if you go by logics, it’s OBVIOUS that red hulk should win. This destroyer argument can’t be used to justify why thor shouldn’t lose.

Now what that really amazed me…

You say LOEB is trash because hulk took down the watcher
But you say JMS is brilliant even if he made thor take down the destroyer???

So if the power up is for thor it’s ok…if it’s for hulk is trash…I can see a lot of parciality here.

You can even say that thor has a reason for power up (odinforce) and red hulk not (till now).

But you said the same about green hulk taking out the black bolt.

There was a big reason for the power up in green scar and it was totally plausible that he took out Black bolt.

Grek Pak, in my opinion, is one of the best writers of this age.

So, if you say that the hulk taking out black bolt is shit, you have to say that thor taking out destroyer is shit too.

I guess if it was thor that was beating a lot of characters on the MU you would be jumping high on hapiness.

You don’t care about what is plausible you just care that your beloved thor don’t be below the hulk.

You say something that PAK did and when you look out, JMS just did the same.

How come in hulk’s book it is trash and in thor’s book it is brilliant?

Frankly…if you can’t put your thor hype aside, don’t try to write a review…it loses all its argumental base.

#10 Lee King says:
November 20th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

As we may exercise our rights practicing the constitution, there is something to be said for having respect for each others opinions. I for one do not appreciate the disrespectful brash language uncalled for, as some of us care what our children think is an acceptable way to conduct themselves. So please, before you comment consider if it is to reply within reason or simply to insult.

Lee King

#11 old-wizard.com says:
November 20th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

Here’s our response:

#1. Thor is a god. He has numerous superpowers. (Strength, speed, stanima, invulnerability, weather control, a magic hammer, along with his other powers). In short, he has too many powers to name.

#2. The Hulk is a human, albeit a super-powered one. His superpowers consist of super strength, and a healing ability.

#3. The Destroyer is nothing compared to the Watcher. The Watcher can see the freakin’ future! How does a brick like the Hulk, take him out?

#12 Lee King says:
November 20th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

All the superpowers you mentioned Thor having are still all physical based attacks.Thor’s power is established, no doubt but Hulk’s persona and physical limitations have never known a limit(being that his mental state has a direct effect on how his physical attributes react). I love Thor and Hulk, but Thor is not invulnerable and though he’s a God, he is not “God”(whom also exists in the Marvel realm)- There are many races of beings in the Marvel Universe, “Gods” are just one of the more powerful ones present. Hulk was born of an explosion(Gamma Explosion: SOME OF THE MOST VIOLENT RADIATION KNOWN IN OUR SYSTEM AND IS KNOWN TO HAVE DESTROYED WHOLE SOLAR SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT OUR OWN GALAXY ALONE BY THE ACT OF ONE SOLAR FLARE UP OR MASSIVE COLLAPSE OF A STAR), thus whenever Hulk is hurt he actually gets better and like a self sustained cancer grows “The more damaged tissue and greater cancer reacts”. And in that respect, the Hulk would because of his physiology take on properties like unto a living bomb, a sort of nuclear mitosis at a cellular level that in definition would literally mean: The more destruction applied, the greater the explosive reaction” like atoms running into themselves at an uncontrollable rate which eventually results in fission, only limited by the properties of what it destroys in it’s path. The Hulk is a living reactor feeding on that which he comes into contact with, if that reaction is peaceful(inert), the cancer goes into a dormate stage “he turns into Banner”, but if met with anything other than a docile nature, it then becomes food for the cancer that is the Hulk. I’m not saying hulk can’t be stopped, he can easily stopped by happy puppies and peaceful waters, or by good natured beings human and alien alike. Other than that, super heroes don’t normally play with never-ending or self sustaining gamma reactors. Blame Jack Kirby and Stan.

Respectfully, Lee

#13 old-wizard.com says:
November 20th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

Thor’s powers are not all physical.

He has:

-Teleport himself or his enemies (if he wanted to he could simply teleport the hulk into the sun)

-Re-constructed the Earth’s Moon

-opened a chasm in the middle of Africa

-Willed the asgardian foe Mangog into nothingness

Not only that but As Lord of Asgard, Thor possesses the Odinforce, which enables him to tap into the near-infinite resources of cosmic and mystical, enhancing all of his abilities. With the vast magical power of the Odinforce, Thor was able to even dent Captain America’s shield with Mjolnir.

Calling magical/mystical powers “physical” is very limited. Would you call Dr. Strange a “physical” hero?

#14 Gustavo says:
November 20th, 2009 at 11:46 pm

In all the arguments that all of you are writing here, I see just the intention to explain (as if you or anybody could) the powers of comic book characters using the laws of phisics. “Gamma explosion”, “self sustained cancer grows”,and the best of all: “atoms running into themselves at an uncontrollable rate which eventually results in fission”. All of these explanations are just garbage don´t contemplated by the writers. They just don´t think about all this stuff. They just wants to sell books!!! That´s all. If not, explain to me, Lee King, why Superman beated Hulk with ONE PUNCH in the Marvel vs DC absurd story. So, if anybody could aply some logics to all of this, could say that if Superman defeated Hulk who defeated, I don´t know, let´s say Silver Surfer, then it´s for sure than Supes will beat Silver Surfer. And nothing of this is considered for the writers. They don´t even know about the history of characters, they mutual fights and all of this. In the RULK series, Loeb just is trying to tell to us that if RULK defeated Abbomination, then Iron Man and Shield, then She hulk, then Hulk, Watcher and Thor is one of the most powerful beings in the Marvel universe. And that´s all. No logic intend, and no logic needed or given!

#15 old-wizard.com says:
November 20th, 2009 at 11:59 pm

I don’t believe the Hulk ever beat the Surfer when the surfer had the power cosmic.

#16 Lee King says:
November 20th, 2009 at 4:05 pm

Hello Again,
You are correct about one thing, not enough time taken to reflect on character attributes. As for the Superman/Hulk thing, that’s not character vs. character – That’s just “I’m DC and your not” scripting. Also, I am aware of Thor’s capabilities, As I have almost every issue but I do realize this is not about the characters as much as it is about creative,(albeit shallow)shock factor writing. As for my description of character biography, your absolutely right… stupid words make you angry, and when you get angry, HHUUL.. I mean, You SMASH!!!! The point being… poor scripting with out thought. Bash me if you will, but I know people in the business and I know the detail of many of marvel’s elite….the files of those characters, their back round and profile in almost snail like detail. The “FBI FILES” of the Marvel Universe. And as an Artist/Penciler, I can tell you of a certainty that there is not enough time taken to create a great series based on the character’s profile/ back round because of money making deadlines. This is not always the case but is for the majority of Big Cooperation comics produced today. By the way, “Most powerful and no logic” = “NO real effort + a poorly conceived script” Thor + Watcher Smash!!! doesn’t work. and “THAT’S all”.

#17 Mark Anthony says:
November 20th, 2009 at 12:10 am

Red Hulk – #616 – - Crossing the Canadian wilderness, the Red Hulk was attacked by a Wendigo, which he ended up killing. The government detected the Red Hulk in the Bering Strait when a satellite detected the seismic activity of the Hulk landing on the ground. In Dimitri, Russia, the Red Hulk murdered the Abomination.

In New York, the Red Hulk attacked Director of S.H.I.E.L.D Tony Stark’s newly commissioned Helicarrier causing it to crash land and be destroyed. While there Red Hulk erased all files on the Hulk, using a sophisticated computer virus. After this attack Red Hulk headed to Gamma Base in Death Valley, Nevada where he squared off against A-Bomb before having to face android Harpies, and the original Hulk.
Red Hulk punches Uatu.

Red Hulk even punched Uatu in the face for trying to watch their battle. Some of Doc Samson’s clothing was found with dramatically increased radiation, so it is possible that Doc was the Red Hulk, although that is not conclusive yet. After fighting, and defeating, the Savage Hulk he was on top of a bridge claiming to be “the strongest there is” until interrupted by Thor. However, Thor found himself surprised and the Red Hulk managed, to get the upper hand, and leave Thor on the moon. Returning to Earth, Red Hulk went on to cause an earthquake in San Fransisco which was being dealt with by the Hulk, She-Hulk, A-Bomb, the Avengers and the Fantastic Four. Thor then returns, and stating that he is angry, he promptly defeats Red Hulk in a few moments, and was about to slay him, but was stopped by A-Bomb, who said the Savage Hulk must be the one who defeats the Red Hulk. The Savage Hulk, and the Red Hulk then engage in combat, and it seems that the Red Hulk was gaining the upper hand, but then the Red Hulk overheated, and suddenly became really dizzy. This allowed the Savage Hulk to defeat the Red Hulk. After his defeat, Red Hulk was visited by Doc Samson and General Thunderbolt Ross who said they gave Red Hulk his power to defeat Hulk and now that he had failed they were cutting him loose.

She-Hulk later gathered Thundra and Valkyrie as the Lady Liberators in an effort to apprehend the Red Hulk near Mount Rushmore, accidentally destroying the sculpture of Lincoln’s face.

They seemed to defeat him. After most of the group left, Red Hulk revealed he had played possum, and took Thundra forging a partnership with her.

To settle a bet with the Grandmaster, the Collector teamed up Red Hulk with Tiger Shark, Baron Mordo, and Terrax against Hulk, Namor, Doctor Strange, and Silver Surfer. Eager for revenge on the his counterpart, Red Hulk agreed to take part in the fight, dubbing his team “The Offenders”. He killed everyone and then went after Galactus. Galactus became enraged, took away the Red Hulk’s Silver Surfer powers he had taken before, and sent him to Earth. Tired of taking orders from Grandmaster, he killed him. Before he died he brings the Defenders and the Offenders back to life and the Defenders defeated Red Hulk. The Grandmaster decided to show the Hulk the dead body of Jarella, breaking the Hulk’s heart which gave the Red Hulk great satisfaction.

It was later revealed that MODOK and A.I.M. had a part in the creation of the Red Hulk.
edit Powers and Abilities
Powers

* Superhuman Strength
He has beaten the savage Hulk.

* Superhuman Stamina

* Regenerative Healing Factor

* Superhuman Leaping Ability
* Superhuman Speed
Moved too fast for Iron Man to see.

* Gamma Radiation Emission: Red Hulk constantly gives off gamma radiation. The rate of emission is increased the angrier he gets.

* Energy Absorbption:Red Hulk is capable of absorbing energy. He said in his confrontation against the Hulk and his Defenders that it absorbs energy, more gamma, but can withstand the power cosmic.
Strength level

Class 100+; Red hulk is strong enough to lift well in excess of 100 tons.
Weaknesses

He can become dizzy if he gets too hot.
edit Paraphernalia
Weapons

A S.H.I.E.L.D.-issue handgun; ergonomically designed for his giant hands, taken from the armory of the Tony Stark designed Helicarrier.

#18 Mark Anthony says:
November 20th, 2009 at 12:19 am

It appears that this Red Hulk is very intelligent, much more intelligent than the normal savage Hulk, possibly even more than the Professor Hulk. He uses a very sophisticated virus capable of destroying all of Hulk’s files in S.H.I.E.L.D.’s database, possibly one of the most secure in the world. He also displays the use of firearms. Although he is intelligent he was outsmarted by the savage Hulk when he tricked the Red Hulk into overheating.

The Red Hulk is actually capable of physically harming and even destroying cosmic entities as old and potent as Uatu and the Grandmaster with enhanced powers, as well as absorbing the energies of the Power Cosmic of a Herald of Galactus and slaying the Sorcerer Supreme, even daring to challenge and enrage Galactus himself. [ I think he will be my #2 on my hero list.

#19 Mark Anthony says:
November 20th, 2009 at 12:22 am

Image:Quote1.png My allies will destroy you all. Baron Mordo. Terrax. Tiger Shark. Together we make — The OFFENDERS! Image:Quote2.png

–Red Hulk (Earth-616)

Image:Quote1.png Heh. I started this game hoping for your death. I realize now that I’ve left you even worse off than dead. With a broken heart. Just as you left me, Banner… Image:Quote2.png

–Red Hulk (Earth-616)

Image:Quote1.png This endless battle between us. It can’t continue. I’m going to drain the life out of you, Banner. More exactly, I’m going to drain the Hulk out of you. … He doesn’t deserve to be the Hulk any longer. Image:Quote2.png

–Red Hulk (Earth-616)

#20 Delta says:
November 20th, 2009 at 12:54 am

Red Hulk is pretty Marvel’s version of Lobo, but a different origin steeped in mystery.

And did it actually state Savage Hulk(who’s about as smart as a 3 year old) out-smarted Rulk by making him overheat? Or was it just a plot-device that allowed Savage Hulk to win?

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